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Title: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on March 31, 2014, 09:42:20 PM
warning-long winded intro of custom bike with alot of pics

hello all and right off the bat i would like to thank everyone on here that has ever posted any important info it has helped me alot and i guess thanks for the unimportant info also lol. im not new and even posted before. once about trying to run high gearing so i could launch in third instead of fixing second gear. i have since matured a little bit lol. and yes i did the right thing and split her open and adressed the problem. now she is a fully transformed unfinished streetfighter. and this is my formal attempt at an intro (good call  :good2: ) i can only assume some of you will not love what i did while others will but i can assure you alot of time and energy has gone into this thing but all while on a budget so i guess i will give you the list and pics.

i dont have a pic of how i got it but it was ruffffff. so i will start with the custom built shockmount to run the suzuki swingarm linkage and wheel out back.

(http://www.customfighters.com/forums/imagehosting/178475235267045ba1.jpg)


then it sat like this. also suzuki front end installed here

(http://www.customfighters.com/forums/imagehosting/17847523526704fa36.jpg)
(http://www.customfighters.com/forums/imagehosting/178475235275b68d95.jpg)

then modified subframe for the bobbed look i like the open gap in the rear... giggity?

(http://www.customfighters.com/forums/imagehosting/178475244e9debe363.jpg)

some of you may notice the choke lever on the carbs. thats cuz they are off an xs1100.

and then this happend to adress 2nd gear and paint everything.

(http://distilleryimage10.ak.instagram.com/5d46cf74295f11e3868f22000a1f97ea_7.jpg)

then got the motor on the stand

(http://distilleryimage3.ak.instagram.com/4564a5cc2ed511e3af2c22000a1f9069_7.jpg)

then dug in

(http://distilleryimage6.ak.instagram.com/eeab90f0354211e3a65122000a1f98d3_7.jpg)

got it back together and started painting.

(http://distilleryimage5.ak.instagram.com/360bd06a62cd11e3867612fc28297605_7.jpg)
(http://distilleryimage10.ak.instagram.com/ab6507a262d011e3927d12fd8d397d26_7.jpg)
(http://distilleryimage9.ak.instagram.com/5b118d5e646311e3b0fd12440ac5900d_7.jpg)
(http://distilleryimage9.ak.instagram.com/b9896bb4692111e38fe4125be5bdf6a9_7.jpg)

then fired her up on the stand to make sure everything was legit.

(http://distilleryimage3.ak.instagram.com/cb43a7126b8211e3919d125d2b9382bf_7.jpg)

then painted all kinds of everything. hours of sandblasting.

(http://distilleryimage0.ak.instagram.com/e3be7b069cdc11e39f2a12f24732dee8_7.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-iphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc/1799764_620165728033154_1523087419_n.jpg)
(http://distilleryimage5.ak.instagram.com/d2af2058a16511e38ea112771af77f89_7.jpg)

then began assembly

(http://distilleryimage7.ak.instagram.com/709626eca16911e38e6d12bcad13b8ff_7.jpg)
(http://distilleryimage7.ak.instagram.com/777ff908a1b211e38d9212ba281a7a4b_7.jpg)
(http://distilleryimage6.ak.instagram.com/85d20514a64911e38f1b1221bafaee2a_7.jpg)
(http://distilleryimage9.ak.instagram.com/98ae0be0a65f11e3bcdb12d309462119_7.jpg)
(http://distilleryimage0.ak.instagram.com/6f7fbe58a67811e3b8c61207f57a3820_7.jpg)
(http://distilleryimage7.ak.instagram.com/01b8c962a6e311e3a5c71250dc374587_7.jpg)

bike was in a minor fire so stock harness was a little ruff so i used almost none of it.not even a key im just using a battery shut off switch

(http://distilleryimage11.ak.instagram.com/3dfe7340ac9c11e39bff125ee89be0ef_7.jpg)

then ran and bled all lines.

(http://distilleryimage3.ak.instagram.com/152e96f2b83b11e38cc01239dde3833f_7.jpg)

then test fitted what i beieve to be an r6 seat. not really sure. this is it just sitting on ther.

(http://distilleryimage3.ak.instagram.com/7b69bc26b83b11e39bcc129a32d39b77_7.jpg)

then acctually mounted the seat cuz i liked the way it looked.

(http://distilleryimage6.ak.instagram.com/bc34771eb83b11e3bfff12339b3cef06_7.jpg)
(http://distilleryimage5.ak.instagram.com/1b4ff0e8b83c11e3943312fe6494e489_7.jpg)

and thast where im at. still alot of work to do tanks in ruff shape still and the carbs need to be tuned also need to finish cleaning wiring up a little. i hope you have enjoyed my intro.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: aviationfred on March 31, 2014, 10:11:23 PM
Great intro and photos. Awesome looking project  :good2: What part of the world are in from??

U.S. Rally season is coming up soon, would be great to have a street fighter at one of the rally's.

Fred
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on March 31, 2014, 10:15:31 PM
upstate ny orange county.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Capn Ron on March 31, 2014, 11:07:03 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on March 31, 2014, 10:15:31 PM
upstate ny orange county.

Welcome!

I grew up upstate of your upstate...In and around Saratoga Springs, NY.  I still have family back there and visit from time to time.

As far as your FJ project goes?  That thing is BAAAAAAAD Monkey!  I absolutely LOVE it!  Keep up with the pics if you can...I'm really enjoying your fabrication and style work on the ol' girl.   :good2:

Cap'n Ron. . .
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Joe Sull on April 01, 2014, 04:57:54 AM
Great job and I think you got a great "can do" attitude for jumping into the engine like that. You could have put a little more red in there though. (popcorn)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: FJmonkey on April 01, 2014, 07:18:21 AM
Welcome and great intro. Keep the progress reports coming. If you are not using much of the original wiring, how much of the electrical are you keeping?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on April 01, 2014, 07:05:16 PM
the things being reused from the stock electrical system is the pickup and wires to cdi the cdi itsself coils ,tach ,start switch/killswitch and factory brakelight switches also neutral and oil level switches will be utilized some how. oh yea and the starter relay. and i think thats all. the factory rev limiter im still unsure of that can be discussed in the bike running issues thread i started please any and all pop on there and chime in.

also should i continue to post updates here or copy all this jazz to project section?. have a vvid of it running after some carb tweaks. best its sounded yet and plugs read good finally.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: andyoutandabout on April 01, 2014, 07:49:26 PM
Excellent intro post. You're in at the deep end already. I'm tuned into this developing streeter.
Andy
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Pat Conlon on April 01, 2014, 08:02:31 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on April 01, 2014, 07:05:16 PM
.....also should i continue to post updates here or copy all this jazz to project section?

I recommend that it would be best over in the projects section. Better for future reference and updates.
No need to copy anything, I can move the entire thread over...

If you wish......your call.

Pat
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on April 01, 2014, 08:07:20 PM
sounds good to me move her on over. thanks brother.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on April 01, 2014, 08:59:53 PM
now my carbs are off an xs1100 and had stage 3 dynojet installed. after looking over the pdf files for both fj and xs dyno jet kits they are all but the same. so my work will be cut out ofr me. i have gotten it the best i can without putting a load on it so untill i test drive it this is what its got.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6ffgJIYam4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6ffgJIYam4)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: racerrad8 on April 01, 2014, 09:18:45 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on April 01, 2014, 08:59:53 PM
now my carbs are off an xs1100 and had stage 3 dynojet installed. after looking over the pdf files for both fj and xs dyno jet kits they are all but the same.

The XJ1100 carbs are 34mm and the FJ1100/1200 carbs are 36mm

They are very similar but not quite the same.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on April 06, 2014, 05:53:45 PM
bungied the old gokart gas tank to her and went down the road. second gear is solid and shes baaaaad. tune the carbs a little more and shes gunna be a real pisser. i cant wait to get this thing on the scale and see what it ways.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Fj.itis on April 07, 2014, 02:12:47 AM
Great stuff! I reckon it will weigh about 210kg (460lbs) with no fuel.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fintip on April 07, 2014, 12:39:38 PM
Another fan here, also following.

For some other inspiration, if you haven't looked yourself:

fjowners.wikidot.com/naked (some better than others)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on April 20, 2014, 09:13:30 AM
my phone took a shit and that means no more camera. will post updates when i get a new camera(phone) striped the paint off the valve cover and mocked up the tail light. also got headlights on there.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Motorheaddad on July 16, 2014, 04:56:29 PM
Any updates on this project?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on July 31, 2014, 09:28:31 PM
(http://photos-f.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xfp1/10549714_272656169588725_586324408_n.jpg)

(http://scontent-a-lga.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10570072_1657449464481078_1958732964_n.jpg)

(http://photos-h.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xfa1/10584704_729446123783591_1172304644_n.jpg)

all assembled and feels great going down the road. having some running issues at the moment that i need to work out. pulls hard when i go down the road but after about a mile it seems like it drops a cylinder or 2 i assume its a fuel delivery problem because after it sits a few min it sounds good again. so i dont think the bowls filling up fast enough on a carb or 2 will find out tomorow when i pull them apart.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: aviationfred on August 01, 2014, 04:31:39 PM
Your project looks great.  :drinks:

One thing I would suggest, I notice that the OEM fork brace is not installed. IMO the OEM brace may not look good with the way the bike is, but a solution would be to install a RPM Black fork brace. http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=M%2FC%3AForkBrace (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=M%2FC%3AForkBrace)

Fred
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on August 01, 2014, 06:04:37 PM
Looks good!  Definately a minimalist  :drinks:

Have you thought of deleting the sideplates?  And mounting the pegs directly to the frame?  You'll have to make spacers for or shorten the swingarm pivot bolt a bit, but nothing too difficult.   Also, you can cut the loops off the bottom o the tank to clean up the lines a little there - cause you'll never need to fit sidecovers on it!  Or are you planning a cool little carbon fiber or brushed aluminum panel there?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ribbert on August 02, 2014, 12:47:46 AM
I love this. The perfect compromise - "Blue Pots"

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3874/14804734474_0fed0c9df6_o.jpg)

Noel
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on August 03, 2014, 10:01:44 PM
Thanks for the love guys. As far as the oem fork brace. Th rpm one won't help much the front end is off a Suzuki. I do have one that's going on though.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on August 04, 2014, 11:29:25 AM
moved into a new shop over the weekend (http://photos-d.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xfa1/10546594_303576516480563_1456239935_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: FJmonkey on August 04, 2014, 10:27:30 PM
Keep it coming dude....
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on August 08, 2014, 11:06:42 AM
going to have to brace the suzuki swing arm. seems to twist pretty aggressively under hard acceleration
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on August 12, 2014, 07:49:42 PM
had one of the valve cover bolts snap today. i want to take this thing to a local show before i tear back into the motor would the be any serious negative side effects of plugging the one hole to prevent oil from coming out for one short ride? its not one of the outer 4 its one of the inner 4. just trying to get a one time ride to this show in 2 days before i fix it correct.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on August 12, 2014, 07:58:25 PM
oh and btw forgot to respond to fj1289. your on the money brother. going to make a small trim piece for the tank tabs and the side plates are there just to hold the exhaust all of which is going away this winter when i fit the pretty little snail on there. i didnt do it first time around cuz wanted to get the chassis all sorted and make sure it was functioning well before boosting.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on August 13, 2014, 08:27:18 PM
new gas tank came in the mail today plan on painting it it came with no cap and the cap from my other tank is not the same because different year. no petcock either but i built i little jobby to thread a barb and ude an external shut of.

(http://photos-e.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/10598310_690595111018004_953552809_n.jpg)

(http://photos-a.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/10608003_647038278725056_1676608154_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: dma251 on August 14, 2014, 11:59:40 AM
I think you've done an excellent job on your bobber-FJ.  Your design for the seat-support/sub-sub-frame is perfect for the lines of the bike.   

The FJ as a custom-bike platform is tough, but it gets better the more you remove.  Are you running the fuel pump still?

I know a lot of members on here are horrified by what we are doing to our FJs, but we are proving that the FJ is more than a one-trick-sporttouring pony.  Makes a sweet custom, too.

Carry on...
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on August 14, 2014, 08:44:33 PM
Quote from: dma251 on August 14, 2014, 11:59:40 AM
I think you've done an excellent job on your bobber-FJ.  Your design for the seat-support/sub-sub-frame is perfect for the lines of the bike.   

The FJ as a custom-bike platform is tough, but it gets better the more you remove.  Are you running the fuel pump still?

I know a lot of members on here are horrified by what we are doing to our FJs, but we are proving that the FJ is more than a one-trick-sporttouring pony.  Makes a sweet custom, too.

Carry on...

thanks brother im with ya. no fuel pump dont think it ever had one being an 84.


got the broken valve cover bolt out of the cam retainer but the when reinstalling said cam retainer one of the 2 bolts snapped. and just like the valve cover bolt it was hardly snug. i feel incredibly defeated. back at it tomorrow
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: oldktmdude on August 15, 2014, 04:55:06 AM
   Sounds like the PO may have been a bit heavy handed tightening some of the fasteners, stressed the bolts and now your paying the price. Makes you think twice before attempting even simple repairs. Very frustrating! Best of luck with anymore mods and repairs.  Pete.  :ireful:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ribbert on August 15, 2014, 09:35:47 AM
Quote from: oldktmdude on August 15, 2014, 04:55:06 AM
   Sounds like the PO may have been a bit heavy handed tightening some of the fasteners, stressed the bolts and now your paying the price.

Quote from: jnimbostratus on August 14, 2014, 08:44:33 PM
got the broken valve cover bolt out of the cam retainer but the when reinstalling said cam retainer one of the 2 bolts snapped. and just like the valve cover bolt it was hardly snug.



Sounds like the PO used the old "racer's rule of thumb"

Noel

Noel
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on August 17, 2014, 10:44:23 AM
well, i got the motor all squared back away with a a little drilling and tapping. installed my home made "petcock" and put fuel in the check for leaks. it did not leak so i put it on the bike and fired it up. definitely solved all of my fuel starvation problems by not having a shot ass 30 yr old petcock that was clogged up with several layers of tank liners. then i took it down the road and this thing is a true animal. especially with the gearing im running.

(http://photos-d.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xfa1/10616414_746574032044883_1656471888_n.jpg)

(http://photos-g.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xfa1/10598648_295230223989310_1641184739_n.jpg)

(http://scontent-a-lga.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xap1/t51.2885-15/926562_739738039421804_328029253_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: FJmonkey on August 17, 2014, 06:15:18 PM
No Kookaloo hump on the back of that seat... When I twist the wrist my ass slides back and hits the back of my seat. I hope you remember to pucker up and not slip off that cocktail napkin you have for a seat. It looks really cool, just worries me when the FJ is used for what it is really good at.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Steve_in_Florida on August 17, 2014, 07:28:52 PM
Quote from: FJmonkey on August 17, 2014, 06:15:18 PM

...I hope you remember to pucker up and not slip off that cocktail napkin you have for a seat.


So sayeth the Monkey!

...and under NO CIRCUMSTANCES should you shine it up with Armor All.
The only thing contacting the bike would be your hands on the grips, and your pucker will be sucking air!   :shok:

Steve
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on August 18, 2014, 08:41:37 PM
took the bike to work today its only about 2 miles from the shop but still felt nice to take it somewhere. this was really the first time i got on it with a little aggression and the low end torque was great but it was a little flat on top. so i got back to the shop after work and raised the needles by moving the clips down one groove and wow what a difference. i have done a decent amount of carb tuning on all different types of bikes atvs etc. and i have never seen a single needle clip position make this much of difference in power. tomorrow i will try another and see if it gets even better.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on August 24, 2014, 02:54:04 PM
Put a couple hundred mile since I registered it on Wednesday and wow. What a good time.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on August 28, 2014, 11:23:02 PM
Ordered some goods today on my phone while on the toilet at work... the 47 tooth Rear sprocket that was stock equipment on the Suzuki wheel is just not what the bike wants. I'm sure you guys understand. Bike makes plenty of inexplicable low end torque. Got a 42 tooth coming in the mail. Should be able to utilize the broad curve this thing offers once this sprocket is installed. Its crazy the way this motor has been described in terms of delivery and response is exactly how it is. Lol even tho I have the chopped to nothing exhaust most people would say offers nothing.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on September 07, 2014, 09:20:12 PM
love this pic

(http://photos-b.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/10693555_1457150614573201_52289546_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on September 07, 2014, 09:25:41 PM
put about 1000 miles on it so decided time to change the oil an filter and fuel filter.

(http://photos-d.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xfa1/10661177_799505230094107_2076430217_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on September 07, 2014, 09:38:36 PM
 also i put a 13$ digital tach from ebay on the bike and as a suspected i had been short shifting it. i thought i was close to redline without the tach but i was only just breaking 7000. the chopped exhaust makes it very deceiving. so after taking it up past 8500 rpm this thing is even more impressive then i had originally believed. need to find some kind of 1/4 turn throttle feels like this one takes a full 360 to reach wfo hopefully somewhere i can just find a different throttle tube to fit in the stock switchblock. if anyone knows anything that would would work it would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: o-town on September 08, 2014, 12:25:01 PM
Cool bike man, been following on customfighters and here as we've been building ours at the same time.

Came in here to ask: Does anyone know the ratio of the FJ tach? I need one for mine (only speedo at the time).

This is what i've done:
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/7/3826_08_09_14_11_19_43.jpeg)
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/7/3826_08_09_14_11_20_18.jpeg)

let me know if you want me to remove the pics, not here to jack your thread.  :drinks:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: FJmonkey on September 08, 2014, 10:05:35 PM
Looks like you need to start your own thread.... Welcome FNG.. Make an introduction, tell us more about our new member.... Modded FJ's are welcome here...
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: bigdrunk on September 09, 2014, 05:54:19 AM
Can I ask where/how you've hidden all the wiring?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on September 09, 2014, 09:05:19 AM
my wiring is not hidden. its non existant. wired it from scratch using only bare minimal to make it function.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: bigdrunk on September 10, 2014, 05:36:10 AM
I was worried you'd say that, my inexperience is leading me to try and hide the existing wiring somehow.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: o-town on September 11, 2014, 03:06:18 AM
Quote from: bigdrunk on September 10, 2014, 05:36:10 AM
I was worried you'd say that, my inexperience is leading me to try and hide the existing wiring somehow.

I've removed some of the unnecessary stuff and hidden the rest on a tray underneath the seat and tank. Works fine. I've been waiting for something to melt and short circuit, but it hasn't happened so far.  :wacko3:

Has anyone got the ratio of the FJ tach?

edit: The harness isn't all that complicated, just download the wiring diagram from the files section and have a good look at it.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Fj.itis on September 11, 2014, 08:08:33 PM
 Strategically place all excess wiring on top of the plug wires and on tray towards back and keep shielded as much as possible ive done 3000km now with no burn out or short problems.

Love the fighter thread by the way, the fj is reborn!

(http://fjowners.com/gallery/6/3982_14_03_14_6_23_57.jpeg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: bigdrunk on September 12, 2014, 12:33:23 AM
I'm stashing it under the seat at the moment, then extending the necessary wires to the front. Best I can do at the moment. Great looking bike, very tidy!
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fintip on October 01, 2014, 02:06:05 AM
Just gonna put this here... http://fjowners.wikidot.com/naked (http://fjowners.wikidot.com/naked)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Streetfighter Project
Post by: TexasDave on October 01, 2014, 05:34:19 AM
Some very nice looking custom FJ's.  Dave
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Bones on October 01, 2014, 04:03:24 PM
I noticed a couple of bikes in those pics had the perimeter frame around the headstock cut off. Their risking injury riding the bike like that because all the strength has been taken out of the front end. It might look better without that bar around the forks but it was put there in the first place for a good reason.

                                                                      Tony.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on October 27, 2014, 09:14:49 PM
great news. enjoyed the bike all summer and since i posted last i got married moved into new home purchased an audi s4 avant stage3+  and as of last weekend officially began the design process for the turbo install on the bike. pics will fallow as the concept gos into motion.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Pat Conlon on October 28, 2014, 11:26:47 AM
Quote from: Bones on October 01, 2014, 04:03:24 PM
I noticed a couple of bikes in those pics had the perimeter frame around the headstock cut off. Their risking injury riding the bike like that because all the strength has been taken out of the front end. It might look better without that bar around the forks but it was put there in the first place for a good reason.

                                                                      Tony.

You are exactly right Tony.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Dads_FJ on October 28, 2014, 11:53:34 AM
Found this on a Facebook FJ page and thought the street-fighter guys might enjoy:

(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb37/campsimonette/street_zps72e97ee3.jpg) (http://s208.photobucket.com/user/campsimonette/media/street_zps72e97ee3.jpg.html)

Which actually made me think of this... What's the possibility or thoughts of adding a couple sections, like one for Street-Fighter and/or one for Legends Racing?

or not  (popcorn)

Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: bigdrunk on October 30, 2014, 06:56:53 AM
Nice bike, do you have a link to the Facebook page it was on? I can't seem to find it.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Dads_FJ on October 30, 2014, 07:23:27 AM
Quote from: bigdrunk on October 30, 2014, 06:56:53 AM
Nice bike, do you have a link to the Facebook page it was on? I can't seem to find it.

try these:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202385563194380&set=pcb.10152567261808124&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202385563194380&set=pcb.10152567261808124&type=1&theater)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202385558914273&set=pcb.10152567261808124&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202385558914273&set=pcb.10152567261808124&type=1&theater)

or the main page is here:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/2331723123/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/2331723123/)


Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 01, 2014, 08:45:18 PM

Brand new t3/t4 turbo should be arriving by mail on Tuesday then the fun begins. Trying to have it all worked out an ready to burn tire for spring.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: giantkiller on November 02, 2014, 07:56:26 AM
I also have a turbo complete kit. From R&B. It's brand spanking new and complete. I got it off fleebay for $1500. He had R&B build it for him in 1989. And never put it on. Had other projects get in the way.

Anyway I have never messed with turbos. Before so I will be watching and learning. From you. Hopefully I'll get some of my projects out of the way. So I can get it going by spring too (popcorn)
Thanks for posting this
Dan
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 04, 2014, 06:33:16 AM
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Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 04, 2014, 06:34:57 AM
(http://photos-f.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xfa1/10735001_793124454059133_1886477412_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on November 04, 2014, 10:26:18 PM
I like your placement for the turbo.  I think a nice setup would be the traditional draw thru turbo location but used as a blow through.

Can't wait to see this one get going!
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 05, 2014, 10:04:46 PM
because i like to measure 5042 times and still cut 5 times before i get it right. the mock up stage for turbo mount i am being very particular about. being that everything needs to be fabricated around the turbo i want it to be in the most efficient location.

(http://scontent-a-lga.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10802604_569324946532571_1738088494_n.jpg)

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Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Bones on November 06, 2014, 12:26:04 AM
How's the clearance between the turbo and rear wheel on full suspension compression. It's surprising how much the wheel travels under normal riding.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: motohorseman on November 06, 2014, 12:42:47 PM
I'm wanting to place the turbo in the lower front of the motor, but, well, it's complicated.....

I've never been a fan of putting something that hot under the seat and near the fuel tank, but it's been done for years.

Another concern is turbo lag - seems that placing the turbo closer to the exhaust could spool it quicker, but so much is based on pipe diameters, ect.....

Good luck and keep those pictures and progress reports coming!
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 06, 2014, 08:46:19 PM
in this project im not concerned with turbo lag, i welcome it somewhat. if the boost comes on a little less aggressivly im hoping it should help reduce wheelspin. and i hear ya about caution with hot turbo placement. with my bike im not as concerned considering how little there actually is in the rear of the bike. and there will be a considerate amount of heat proofing to protect the seat. but also the further the turbo is from the motor the cooler it will be.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 09, 2014, 06:36:37 PM
(http://photos-b.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/10802692_1509029012694201_1842179746_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Flying Scotsman on November 09, 2014, 09:20:54 PM
Looks good but will the turbo work there,wont there be to much heat.
I have never turbo charged anything but im not dead yet.I like it keep at it and work out any bugs as you go  :hi:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: cRaZy8 on November 09, 2014, 09:37:16 PM
Quote from: Flying Scotsman on November 09, 2014, 09:20:54 PM
Looks good but will the turbo work there,wont there be to much heat.
I have never turbo charged anything but im not dead yet.I like it keep at it and work out any bugs as you go  :hi:

Air is a GREAT insulator. Id imagine it would take a lot to get the seat hot.
Turbos on bikes dont have a huge load on them like they do in a car or truck.
And cars have much less airflow over the turbos.
He will be hard pressed to get that turbo hot enough to worry.
Plus, some heat wrap on the pipes, and a heat shield under the seat pan will cure any issues.

Im pumped to see how this turns out.

Whats the most power someone has put through the bottom end of an FJ?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on November 10, 2014, 08:36:24 AM
I own 2 turbo-charged vehicles. Both have heat shields over the turbos & extra hood insulation from the factory. My Dodge/Cummins pick-up truck was from the era where Dodge had a problem with the primer lifting off the hood & the top of the cab making the paint let loose & peal. The paint failure started directly over the turbo-charger & progressed from there.

You will want to use a heat blanket to wrap your hot-side of the turbo & its hot-side plumbing. Not only will this protect the turbos surroundings, it will help prevent heat loss in your exhaust feed to the turbine. You want that heat to make it to the turbine for full performance.

Good luck, I've always wanted to ride a turbo-charged bike. Any idea how much boost you are shooting for? Will you be incorporating an inter-cooler?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on November 10, 2014, 08:38:48 AM
I double posted somehow. Please remove. Thank you.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 10, 2014, 09:09:15 AM
i will be starting at 8 psi no intercooler at first maybe add one in the future after i build a motor to support more boost. i would like to find a 1200 motor to build on the stand while i ride the bike with this motor in it.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 10, 2014, 09:16:34 AM
if there is anyone in the upstate ny hudson valley area or surrounding area with a 1200 motor for sale or an 1100 with a solid trans for a reasonable price let me know. it what i need to take this bike to the next next level.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: motohorseman on November 10, 2014, 09:28:24 AM
I'm hoping to pick up a 1350, it's already got a turbo manifold installed via  a spacer/adaptor plate.

Watching this with great interest
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on November 10, 2014, 09:49:13 AM
I would try to include the largest intercooler that you can, if there is enough real estate up front. I replaced my Buicks intercooler with a much larger front mounted (in front of radiator vs. behind) intercooler. It helped me survive on pump gas premium at 16lbs. of boost. The car is capable of approximately 28lbs. of boost from my research, but you need to run some high octane race fuel to prevent detonation.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 10, 2014, 10:28:09 AM
1350 is my end goal thats why i am looking for a spare motor to build on the stand. i have also been flirting with the idea of machining a head spacer to drop compression to allow more boost. i know this is common in the vw world with aftermarket supercharger applications.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 11, 2014, 06:40:18 AM
The more I have been thinking about it the more my mind has been changing about running an intercooler. Should be fun to find someplace to fit considering there is not much left off the bike. I'm thinking maybe one large front mount out in front of the bike or a smaller sidemount maybe one on each side.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on November 11, 2014, 09:00:07 AM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on November 11, 2014, 06:40:18 AMThe more I have been thinking about it the more my mind has been changing about running an intercooler. Should be fun to find someplace to fit considering there is not much left off the bike. I'm thinking maybe one large front mount out in front of the bike or a smaller side mount maybe one on each side.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but those are about the only 2 options that I see for intercooler mounting on a bike. Front mount, below the oil cooler would probably be best. Might want to put a heat shield on each head-pipe or wrap them. That would put the cooler out front in the cold wind. A couple of side mounts would be cool, but more complex plumbing. Probably better for a dual turbo set-up.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 11, 2014, 11:14:20 AM
when i said front mount i meant way out front. infront of the forks.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on November 11, 2014, 09:28:20 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on November 11, 2014, 11:14:20 AM
when i said front mount i meant way out front. infront of the forks.

Exactly - under your headlights - put that piece of frame to good use! 

Can't wait to see it screaming in anger!
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on November 12, 2014, 09:14:58 AM
Hmm... That would be THE best place, but might be homely having a big ole shiny box hanging off the front of your bike.

The intercooler is worth the extra expense & trouble. It will pay for itself in increased performance.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 12, 2014, 09:27:48 AM
Yea I hear you on the aesthetics I think if I don't go to big an I go black it may not be to bad. Maybe put some numbers on it make it double as a number plate. I will do some cardboard mock ups before I decide what route to take.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on November 13, 2014, 12:42:04 AM
I've always preferred the looks of bikes (and cars and planes) where form follows function -- clean, tidy, professional work is its own art form. 

I like the number plate idea - reminds me of the old super bikes
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on November 13, 2014, 09:12:33 AM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on November 10, 2014, 10:28:09 AM1350 is my end goal thats why i am looking for a spare motor to build on the stand. i have also been flirting with the idea of machining a head spacer to drop compression to allow more boost. i know this is common in the vw world with aftermarket supercharger applications. 

The bigger bore will increase your compression unless you use a dished or reverse dome piston. I think that you want your compression ratio around 8:1. You might want to research how difficult it is to seal the combustion chamber with that large of a bore. You don't really need extra displacement when you have boost. The idea of a spacer between the cylinder & the head, may cause the "squish" distance to land in the detonation prone range. Ultimately you want about .040" between the top of the piston & the combustion chamber to maximize "squish" & help minimize detonation.

Do you know if ARP offers head studs for the FJ? Keeping the head from lifting under boost is a common problem.

Just a few angles for you to contemplate. Maybe a stock displacement will provide a stronger deck than a big bore kit. Plus the 1200 should run a bit cooler than the big bore. Intake & engine heat is going to be your enemy.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 13, 2014, 10:08:55 AM
Great information to consider thanks man appreciate your interest.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on November 13, 2014, 03:16:13 PM
I have been fascinated with turbocharging ever since it clicked that all that exhaust energy was just wasted out the tail-pipe. Now you can harness that energy.

I don't know a whole lot about them in a bike application, but would love to ride a turbocharged bike. I dig it when the turbine spools up & the boost comes on. It almost feels like the power band of a well tuned 2-stroke.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: scotiafj on November 13, 2014, 04:47:24 PM
Quote from: Dads_FJ on October 30, 2014, 07:23:27 AM
Quote from: bigdrunk on October 30, 2014, 06:56:53 AM
Nice bike, do you have a link to the Facebook page it was on? I can't seem to find it.

try these:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202385563194380&set=pcb.10152567261808124&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202385563194380&set=pcb.10152567261808124&type=1&theater)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202385558914273&set=pcb.10152567261808124&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202385558914273&set=pcb.10152567261808124&type=1&theater)

or the main page is here:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/2331723123/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/2331723123/)




haha ...thats my face book page  :i_am_so_happy: got it off another fb page fj1100 1200 1300 sport tourer lateral frame concept  :good:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 13, 2014, 04:48:35 PM
well tuned 2 stroke is a great comparison. i took a guy from work that is obsessed with 2strokes for a ride in my built audi s4 its 2.7 v6 twin turbo and when we hit boost in second gear and spun all 4 tires he yelled "holy shit its a 2 stroke"

i measured the front of the bike up a little bit and i think there is an ebay intercooler that will look great with the numberplate look 13x6
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on November 13, 2014, 07:24:38 PM
Quote from: ~JM~ on November 13, 2014, 09:12:33 AM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on November 10, 2014, 10:28:09 AM1350 is my end goal thats why i am looking for a spare motor to build on the stand. i have also been flirting with the idea of machining a head spacer to drop compression to allow more boost. i know this is common in the vw world with aftermarket supercharger applications. 

The bigger bore will increase your compression unless you use a dished or reverse dome piston. I think that you want your compression ratio around 8:1. You might want to research how difficult it is to seal the combustion chamber with that large of a bore. You don't really need extra displacement when you have boost. The idea of a spacer between the cylinder & the head, may cause the "squish" distance to land in the detonation prone range. Ultimately you want about .040" between the top of the piston & the combustion chamber to maximize "squish" & help minimize detonation.

Do you know if ARP offers head studs for the FJ? Keeping the head from lifting under boost is a common problem.

Just a few angles for you to contemplate. Maybe a stock displacement will provide a stronger deck than a big bore kit. Plus the 1200 should run a bit cooler than the big bore. Intake & engine heat is going to be your enemy.

The sleeves that are used for 1314 pistons can also be used with 1250 pistons and will have that much thicker (and stronger more stable) walls.  Combine that with an XJR Siamese block and you'll have the strongest cylinder I can think of that is still streetable.   

APE (aperaceparts.com) has heavy duty cylinder studs and nuts.  I'm sure Randy can get them too
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Pat Conlon on November 14, 2014, 12:06:52 PM
Do you have a target boost level?  Personally, I would be leery on running a turbo with carbs.

On the other hand...a RPM fuel injection system (hint hint) would allow for precise tuning.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 15, 2014, 02:36:41 PM
hot side almost done little more tweaking and weld

(http://scontent-a-iad.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xpf1/l/t51.2885-15/10784825_1485130865108597_598837622_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 15, 2014, 04:45:49 PM
Fj1100 turbo teaser: http://youtu.be/SVzdabfq8ps (http://youtu.be/SVzdabfq8ps)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Pat Conlon on November 15, 2014, 05:21:37 PM
Oil lines hooked up? How did you plumb your return line?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on November 16, 2014, 08:23:12 AM
I was curious on how you would plumb the oil lines myself.

How will you handle pressurizing the carbs? I'm assuming a blow through the carbs application? Or will you build a pressurized box that the carbs fit inside?

Are you planning to use that "wrinkle wall" tubing on the hot side, or is that for mock up?

Thank you & good luck.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: MLdesigns on November 16, 2014, 03:48:55 PM
a may have just had an "incident" after that video cant wait to see her done mate
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 17, 2014, 08:19:24 AM
The oil lines are not hooked up yet I only ran it for about 10 seconds but the ol lines are my next step I think in going to replace the plug on the side of oil pan with a fitting to run feed line and for return I'm going to most likely drill an tap the clutch cover. Still open to suggestions on this. And as far as pressuring the carbs I plan on using a pitot tube in the charge pipe. Most people seem to have great success this way. I think I have an idea to put a spin on the concept by using an oversized pitot tube and running it thru a boost controller to be able to fine tune bowl pressure. Between that and adjustable boost referanced fuel pressure regulated it should take some of the monotony out of tuning. Still just a concept tho.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 17, 2014, 08:24:39 AM
Forgot to answer the exhaust question. That pipe setup will be temporary. When I get everything working properly I will have that duplicated with mandrel bend one piece with a flange at the flex pipe for easier removal.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on November 17, 2014, 09:17:23 AM
And as far as pressuring the carbs I plan on using a pitot tube in the charge pipe. Most people seem to have great success this way. I think I have an idea to put a spin on the concept by using an oversized pitot tube and running it thru a boost controller to be able to fine tune bowl pressure. Between that and adjustable boost referanced fuel pressure regulated it should take some of the monotony out of tuning. Still just a concept tho.

Can you explain this further? You lost me at "pitot tube". LOL!

Thank you
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: aviationfred on November 17, 2014, 09:32:52 AM
Quote from: ~JM~ on November 17, 2014, 09:17:23 AM
Can you explain this further? You lost me at "pitot tube". LOL!

Thank you

Here is a description of Pitot tubes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitot_tube (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitot_tube)

Fred
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 17, 2014, 09:38:23 AM
 pitot tube is a smaller tube that is placed inside the charge pipe with the opening facing against the direction of airflow this i will be then plumber to the float bowl vents so the pressure in the carbs matches that of the intake pressure. also will be my waste gate reference. here is an example if a pitot tube in an intake manifold i found on google

(http://www.turbo-bike.com/images/Pressurise%20carbs/Conations%20to%20plenum.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 17, 2014, 09:39:18 AM
lol beat me to it.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on November 17, 2014, 10:03:45 AM
Thanks. I was aware of what a pitot tube was, I just didn't understand it's function in this system.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 17, 2014, 10:10:17 AM
size of pitot tube seems to be the most difficult part of getting the carbs to work properly and from the research i have done most people end up doing alot of trial an error to get it just right then i read on another furom one huy tapped his pitot tube to except holley carb jets to adjust pitot tube. i plan to do somthing very similar to this by using a slightly oversized pitot tube and using an inline Manuel boost controller between pitot and carb
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: MLdesigns on November 18, 2014, 08:09:48 AM
Wouldnt you then have to adjust ur pitot pressure based on the turbo pressure at different rpm or woukd the boost pressure be a constant that u cpuld match the pitot to? Because if it was changing could you use an adjustable boost controller thats auto adjusting so u could dial it in for +or-tge incoming boost to balance the system pressure based on incoming charge all the time. Never built a tubby just a thought i had. Disregard and nonscence if u want mate....
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 23, 2014, 11:46:44 AM
the pressure the pitot tube sees is a constant to the charge pipe so it will always be a constant so no need for anything auto adjusting thats why i will be referancing everything boost related off of it. the idea of the manuel boost controller for carb pressure is because i dont know of an exact science for boost ratio to the float bowl. if that mkes sence to your question.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: MLdesigns on November 23, 2014, 02:30:06 PM
Yeah im with you matey. Just learning what i can. My fjx has a turbo on the todo list. Or a super if i can find a ideal size one cheap
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 24, 2014, 07:57:50 PM
Waste gate actuator mount all fabricated and mounted still need to clean up the edges an finish but it's functional.

(http://photos-c.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xpa1/10787870_712579835507674_600720381_n.jpg)


had to weld up the exhaust flange so i could heat up the section just before the turbo and bend it out a hair from the swing arm.

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Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 25, 2014, 06:16:44 PM
Can someone please tell me what the oil cap thread is. I have an idea...
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 25, 2014, 09:51:17 PM
drilled and tapped the main oil galley plug for the -4 turbo feed line today

(http://photos-g.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xap1/10808592_1509227676028246_1209955034_n.jpg)

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Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 28, 2014, 08:38:44 PM
oil feed and drain flanges finally came in the mail

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Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 28, 2014, 08:45:35 PM
the -4 oil feed line tapd and line routed and the -10 drain fitting drilled and tap into the stock oil fill cap. just need a 90 degree -4 to finish feed and 2 90 degree -10 fittings for drain.

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Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on December 03, 2014, 08:49:48 AM
(http://photos-a.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xfp1/10808809_399476516885408_1636251002_n.jpg)

intercooler mock up. it ended up being to big to mount infront of the forks on the frame so i will be relocating oil cooler up there and putting intercooler where the oil cooler was.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: simi_ed on December 03, 2014, 09:00:15 AM
OK, time for a dumb question: Where's the oil cooler going?  I don't think I'd try running a standard FJ w/o an oil cooler.
Turbo FJ?  Oil cooler required, IMHO.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: FJmonkey on December 03, 2014, 09:12:22 AM
Quote from: simi_ed on December 03, 2014, 09:00:15 AM
OK, time for a dumb question: Where's the oil cooler going?  I don't think I'd try running a standard FJ w/o an oil cooler.
Turbo FJ?  Oil cooler required, IMHO.

The way I read it, the oil cooler is going in front of the forks, where he originally was placing the intercooler.   
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: simi_ed on December 03, 2014, 10:17:38 AM
I guess If I had read the words, instead of just looking at the picture, I'd have caught that detail.  D'oh! And I REALLY do read Playboy for the articles too.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on December 03, 2014, 11:03:19 AM
That IC looks like it belongs there.

Too bad a couple of hard 90's will be required to plumb it, but I see no other option. I doubt the 90's will cause much restriction to flow if they're a smooth radius. Everything will be pressurized (most of the time) so angles & 90 degree turns aren't as critical as in a naturally aspirated flow path.

Can't wait to hear the ride reports.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on December 03, 2014, 07:25:39 PM
One piece at a time. 120° fitting routes the oil drain line right where I want it.

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Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on December 10, 2014, 06:31:58 PM
got the oil drain line all finished up finally.

(http://scontent-b-lga.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xpa1/t51.2885-15/10785008_384674065032091_1564093687_n.jpg)

(http://photos-g.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xpf1/10802551_1541887576057014_1119522197_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on December 10, 2014, 06:36:55 PM
forgot to post this also. did some work on mounting the intercooler. cant get it 100% mounted till its plumbed incase it needs tweaking.

(http://photos-e.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xpa1/928970_835727643116980_793856699_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on December 11, 2014, 08:20:32 AM
It's coming along!

How are you going to change, or add oil to your bike? Do you have to disconnect the turbine bearing oil return line?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on December 11, 2014, 09:01:18 AM
Just crack the line loose and remove the fill cap like normal. Once the bike is shut off for a few moments the line will drain.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Mark Olson on December 12, 2014, 02:02:23 AM
Great project  :good2:  Fascinating and intriguing .

I was wondering a couple of things.  :mail1: :unknown:

Where is the turbo exhaust gonna route to? 

Are you missing your right leg?  or gonna wrap it in asbestos ?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on December 21, 2014, 10:09:26 PM
my leg actually does not come that close to the exhaust when i sit on the bike. but also exhaust will be header wrapped all the way back. and as far as exhaust outlet, well im not 100% sure yet. few ideas
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Mark Olson on December 21, 2014, 10:34:45 PM
Yeah , looks like it's gonna be tight.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on December 21, 2014, 10:55:17 PM
oil cooler rough mocked but functional. need to clean up mounts but it will work.

(http://photos-g.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10865132_1734572570101910_638875931_n.jpg)

(http://photos-e.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10838497_821851744546244_1336143980_n.jpg)

http://videos-a-12.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t50.2886-16/10877133_811156455611532_71327437_n.mp4 (http://videos-a-12.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t50.2886-16/10877133_811156455611532_71327437_n.mp4)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: giantkiller on December 21, 2014, 11:54:02 PM
Is it going to blow or suck? :sarcastic:  Are you going to have it blow through the cvs. Or are you going to have it suck through a single carb?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: giantkiller on December 22, 2014, 12:02:59 AM
I just looked back and found out your going to have it blow. The kit I have sucks...through a single flat slide. If I remember right it's a 38.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on December 28, 2014, 11:33:52 AM
some work on intercooler plumbings. start work on the intake manifold tomorrow.

(http://scontent-b-lga.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10864979_716533651787983_1712831081_n.jpg)

(http://photos-b.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t51.2885-15/10808615_1758321871058601_1681993905_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on January 03, 2015, 05:54:48 PM
progress..

(http://photos-a.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10891059_1566565160222408_914993860_n.jpg)

(http://photos-a.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10838758_826375474085424_1481114417_n.jpg)

(http://scontent-a-lga.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10890811_864251503597351_265697469_n.jpg)

(http://photos-h.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10890746_915541391831463_636180104_n.jpg)

(http://photos-h.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10859936_836702323064287_261939683_n.jpg)

(http://photos-f.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10914200_1518253231774405_2058766050_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: simi_ed on January 03, 2015, 08:12:34 PM
OK, Time for another dumb question:  Where do your knees go?  I think I see some interference ahead!
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on January 03, 2015, 09:45:48 PM
Not a dumb question at all. Oh yea right knee has some serious obstructions going on. I sat on it and I'm going to need to make some adjustable rearsets and it will remedy the issue enough considering this is no longer going to be my daily rider. I am building a 56 panhead I picked up to be my daily low an slow commuter.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on January 04, 2015, 08:43:01 AM
That frame tube that runs up & across the front of the bike is sure giving you a hard time right now. Too bad it can't be removed or modified.

Have you ever ridden a bike that can break loose the rear tire at 80 to 100+ mph? LOL!
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on January 04, 2015, 07:20:23 PM
the front of the frame could be modified but i dont think the amount of work required would be worth it. it ended up serving as a good way to mount the oil cooler anyway. and for riding a spin happy bike, i have ridden some gnarly stuff including boosted modern gsxr1000 but i dont think my bike is going to be very unmanageable maybe at first it will be but once i have it all tuned the way i want it should be very predictable and functional. .. ... i hope..
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on January 04, 2015, 07:25:15 PM
(http://photos-b.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10903203_341821356006705_2115375736_n.jpg)

(http://photos-d.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10914478_750049711710995_1717266920_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on January 04, 2015, 07:29:30 PM
the charge pipe from intercooler to carb manifold i decided i hate and now will modify the pipe and manifold to be less obstructive to my right knee and also to make it look better.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on January 06, 2015, 08:43:40 PM
latest revision.. i can actually sit on the bike in my normal riding stance again. looks much better also.

(http://photos-c.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10881890_843073425738682_1702122050_n.jpg)

(http://photos-c.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10919291_1554941861389354_1802109440_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Pat Conlon on January 06, 2015, 09:21:06 PM
There ya go!

I really enjoy reading this :hi:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on January 07, 2015, 09:45:36 AM
That looks much better! Now maybe you won't cook your leg.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Mark Olson on January 07, 2015, 01:57:02 PM
The air intake is figured out now  :good2:

the turbo exhaust is gonna be the next problem with it so close to your thigh when riding .  :morning2:

It is looking pretty awesome and should be a lot of fun when completed. :good:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: theLeopard on January 07, 2015, 03:08:45 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on July 31, 2014, 09:28:31 PM
(http://photos-f.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xfp1/10549714_272656169588725_586324408_n.jpg)
Is it feaseable to mount those lamps underneath the frame Behind the center third sectional of the forks?

(http://distilleryimage9.ak.instagram.com/b9896bb4692111e38fe4125be5bdf6a9_7.jpg)
:shok: Yes. !!  :i_am_so_happy:

(http://photos-h.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xfa1/10584704_729446123783591_1172304644_n.jpg)Mechanically functional for maintenance, and that tire looks radical.
100% jealous. Paint the tank Leopard print and consider it stolen.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on January 07, 2015, 08:17:33 PM
Mark I think I have a strong idea for the exhaust that should look brilliant and keep the heat down. And leopard, thank you I appreciate the compliment. Bikes been getting a great response on the forums and in my shop.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on January 11, 2015, 01:52:42 PM

(http://scontent-b-lga.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10895005_894675843898311_93270044_n.jpg)

used some fiberglass resin to seal any leakes on the intake manifold welds did it right after i ran out of fuel for the furnace so it took forever to cure. i actually had fuel again before it was hard.

so got everything loosely put back together and now with much fewer leaks you can actauly hear some turbo in the intake and when you put your hand over the turbo inlet it wants to suck it right in. still need to seal up a few spots a little better and get the fueling done before putting a real load on it but it is definitely making some power as

(http://photos-g.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10914516_1578402032393654_1016206930_n.jpg)

heres a burn out. i pulled in the clutch and cut the throttle as soon as a felt it boost a little becuase waste gate actuator was not hooked uo and didnt want to over boost it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwqoij1P9wQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwqoij1P9wQ)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Mark Olson on January 11, 2015, 01:59:35 PM
lookin good ,  :good2:

That bike is gonna  be lots of fun.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on January 13, 2015, 06:20:53 PM
i think i understand how the vacuum advance works and if it works how i imagine it would its actually advanced all of the time considering its not hooked up. the vacuum actually retards the timing and as rpm increases the vacuum decreases which results in the advance. so if i want to truly eliminate the advance i would need to have a constant vacuum to my black box? input please friends..
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Flynt on January 13, 2015, 07:25:10 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on January 13, 2015, 06:20:53 PM
the vacuum actually retards the timing and as rpm increases...

I don't believe that's how it works.  To get const advance (in the absence of a mechanical advance), just unplug the vacuum line.

I think the vacuum indicates throttle position and is inversly proportional to a first order.  The vacuum indicates a lightly loaded engine and adds power through advancing the timing.  Side effect is happy engine, efficient/longer burn, better mileage, etc.  You crack the throttle and the vacuum goes to atmosphere, dropping your timing back to retarded state where you're not going to detonate (ping).

I could also not know what the hell I'm talking about.

Frank
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Flynt on January 13, 2015, 08:23:47 PM
Quote from: Flynt on January 13, 2015, 07:25:10 PM
The High vacuum indicates a lightly loaded engine...

less confusing?

Frank
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on January 13, 2015, 08:39:26 PM
so if i hook up a hose to the black box and i suck on it while the bike is running the timing will retard? if this is the case in order to get what i want out of it i could attach a hose to where the filter gos on the turbo so it always pulls under load. if i hook it up to the nipple on carb #2 it will blow under boost rather then pull causing it not to work. i dont know thinking out loud
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Flynt on January 13, 2015, 08:56:57 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on January 13, 2015, 08:39:26 PM
i dont know thinking out loud

I'd think you'd go to a pure mechanical advance.  That would work well with boost anyway, just don't have much advance when fully in.

Frank
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Mark Olson on January 13, 2015, 10:31:35 PM
You may want to use a turbo specific ignition system . With a turbo too much advance will melt your pistons .

I was looking at different Fj ignitions on the web and there was one with 5 different advance curves , rev limit , shift light for about 370.00 bucks.

Don't know for sure but with the stock fj ign used with turbo there would be a small vac signal when boosting so it wouldn't advance anyway.

I saw a curve chart once in a post that showed 55* adv at 6500rpm and 38* at 9000rpm.

Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on January 14, 2015, 06:25:51 AM
I plan on using the dyna2000 as soon as my wallet will allow but for temporary I'm just looking to make the stock unit not advance.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Pat Conlon on January 14, 2015, 09:58:13 AM
The FJ vacuum advance happens when the throttle plates close (vacuum increases) it is done for emissions reasons to burn off all the unburned hydrocarbons.....not for performance.
http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=11690.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=11690.0)

Unplug and cap the vacuum line. Run the non advanced timing curve.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on January 14, 2015, 11:24:33 AM
thanks pat, just what i wanted to hear.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on January 16, 2015, 08:21:29 PM
got airfilter and boost gauge today

(http://photos-g.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10914568_1520692541553334_1938694488_n.jpg)

(http://photos-e.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10932146_770247683029196_643188680_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: FJmonkey on January 16, 2015, 11:00:56 PM
What a beast you have there!!!
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ZOA NOM on January 17, 2015, 02:09:34 PM
Dear God, I haven't read the whole thread, but is that rear sprocket huge? How are you gonna keep the front end on the ground?


edit: just read the whole thread... did you ever get the 42T sprocket? 47T would have been insane.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Pat Conlon on January 17, 2015, 06:49:59 PM
How does it run?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ZOA NOM on January 17, 2015, 08:01:58 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on January 17, 2015, 06:49:59 PM
How does it run?

Probably like a scalded ape!
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on January 18, 2015, 05:30:33 PM
started on the exhaust need to cap off the original inlet on the muffler still

(http://fjowners.com/gallery/8/1579_18_01_15_5_26_56.jpeg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on January 18, 2015, 05:35:48 PM
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/8/1579_18_01_15_5_35_01.jpeg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on January 19, 2015, 04:23:18 PM
Ordered the fpr last night. A boost referanced fpr is not something I was able to find locally so I ordered it online. The fuel pump it's self I will source from local store. Still need the blow off valve then after I testride it I will be doing performance clutch and ignition.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on January 23, 2015, 08:01:56 PM
Give me feed back on the muffler. All of you.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Harvy on January 23, 2015, 08:34:49 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on January 23, 2015, 08:01:56 PM
Give me feed back on the muffler. All of you.

Personally - I like it - would be good to have something that small on my FJ, but I doubt it would pass the local police station without waking them up.     :i_am_so_happy:


Harvy
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: aviationfred on January 23, 2015, 10:37:18 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on January 23, 2015, 08:01:56 PM
Give me feed back on the muffler. All of you.


The Muffler looks great. The only thing I can see that may be an issue is, the low part under the engine and the angling up to the muffler may drag on the ground during a hard right hand curve.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on January 24, 2015, 01:17:28 PM
The pictures are deceiving because the exhaust after the collector comes out side then up so depth perception tricks a little but the lowest point of exhaust is only about 1/4 inch lower at lowest point then before the turbo and I never had a problem so I'm hoping as long as I stay conscious of it I will be fine.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on January 24, 2015, 01:19:43 PM
Oh and as far as sound. It is not loud. Its quieter then when I was running that same can without the turbo. But the combo of can and turbo quieted it down a bit
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Harvy on January 24, 2015, 02:26:25 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on January 24, 2015, 01:19:43 PM
Oh and as far as sound. It is not loud. Its quieter then when I was running that same can without the turbo. But the combo of can and turbo quieted it down a bit

Precisely...... turbos are excellent silencers in their own right.

Cheers
Harvy
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Mark Olson on January 24, 2015, 03:49:08 PM
Muffler looks good there , maybe take a picture of you sitting on the bike so we can see the riding position.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on January 24, 2015, 04:30:19 PM
I will get a pic of me on it when I get back to my shop in a few days. My leg at a stand still and riding position lands in front of muffler and behind charge pipe pretty damn close to perfect. Everything is mock until the following winter inevitably. Build through winter ride through summer,repeat.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Mark Olson on January 24, 2015, 04:44:41 PM
Yup, winter for projects , the rest of the year for riding. :good2:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 01, 2015, 01:08:24 PM
I rode it.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: TexasDave on February 01, 2015, 01:17:45 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on February 01, 2015, 01:08:24 PM
I rode it.
GREAT! And you are going to just leave us in suspence? How did it ride? Were you happy with it? Did you go very fast? Inquiring minds want to know more!  Dave
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 01, 2015, 01:39:42 PM
The suspense was a plan. So I will leave you with one bit of info for now.. rear tire lit up in 4th gear.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: oz.fj on February 01, 2015, 06:04:10 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on February 01, 2015, 01:39:42 PM
rear tire lit up in 4th gear.
Nice..Tell us more...more....... (popcorn)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 02, 2015, 03:31:17 PM
Ordered wideband today.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 03, 2015, 04:40:06 PM
Was snowed in yesterday so after I ordered the wideband I got carried away and ordered fuel pump and blow off valve and new boost gauge.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Pat Conlon on February 03, 2015, 04:50:52 PM
Do have a idea how much boost you're running? Wastegate setting?
The wideband will be critical for safe tuning...the tricky part will be getting your carb jetting right. Sometimes Fuel injection is so much easier.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 03, 2015, 05:10:03 PM
8 psi. Fuel injection is way easier.. when it's already fuel injected. One day I may do it when the wallet will allow. Blow through is simple enough. I'm kind of doing it as a purposeful learning experience. If someone wants me to boost their bike and pay for it without fi I will have some experience to sell them. After one season of riding I would like to get into the mega squirt. I actually was arguing with myself today about how much room I could save with one throttle body pre manifold and injectors on runners. But like I said next winter, riding season is rapidly approaching.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 04, 2015, 03:48:13 PM
Wideband and boost gauge came in the mail today but I promised my wife I would take her to a movie tonight so it will have to wait till tomorrow. I'm expecting more parts to arrive tomorrow at the shop anyway.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: giantkiller on February 04, 2015, 09:34:00 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on February 04, 2015, 03:48:13 PM
Wideband and boost gauge came in the mail today but I promised my wife I would take her to a movie tonight so it will have to wait till tomorrow. I'm expecting more parts to arrive tomorrow at the shop anyway.
This is awesome. I just lucked out and got a nos Fj turbo kit off fleebay. I could never build the whole thing like your doing.
Being new to turbos. Other than the one in my f250.
Wondering what wideband and boost gauge would be best... What did you get and why?
Thanks Dan
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 05, 2015, 09:24:06 PM
i got a sunpro boost gauge because it was cheapest i could get with still decent reviews and thats the same reason i got the apsx d2 wideband. cheap but still comes with quality bosch sensor and good reviews.

welded the bung for the wideband sensor today.

(http://photos-e.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10895457_346184095573660_2030224830_n.jpg)

(http://photos-a.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10895395_1528582654073216_81172827_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on February 06, 2015, 09:55:22 AM
Boy... You are really running out of real estate to work with aren't you?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 06, 2015, 12:48:18 PM
Haha yea ya think? Still need to find a home for the fpr but then I'm pretty much done looking for space.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 10, 2015, 06:36:26 AM
Wired and calibrated. im a little rich at idle lol

(http://scontent-b-iad.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10954859_865343156858440_1530568665_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on February 10, 2015, 08:09:16 AM
Better a tad rich than too lean. Looks like your are over a tad rich though.

Can't wait to hear a ride report.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Mark Olson on February 10, 2015, 01:22:12 PM
Looking good with the gauges , time to get some test data ... vrrrrooooom .  :gamer: 
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on February 10, 2015, 09:47:01 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on February 10, 2015, 06:36:26 AM
Wired and calibrated. im a little rich at idle lol

(http://scontent-b-iad.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10954859_865343156858440_1530568665_n.jpg)

You may be even richer than you think -- most wideband O2's have a minimum value they can display -- and will display that minimum value even if it is even richer in reality.    That value is about 10.3 for my WEGO III.  I've found my current FJ engine (1314 with lowered compression and huge cams) likes to idle in the low 13's. 

Can't wait to see you get it sorted out and tuned

Awesome project and great progress!  Keep it up!
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 11, 2015, 08:47:42 PM
yesterday i was fabing an adaptor flange for blow off valve and i got into a brawl with the drill press

little flap o flesh
(http://scontent-a-iad.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10899113_601549086656635_286657917_n.jpg)

luckily i have medical experience

(http://photos-b.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10990534_1602053080007009_101564614_n.jpg)

but really my wife is a nurse so she buttoned me up when i got home last night and today i was able to get the blow off valve setup

(http://photos-g.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10986417_1420606444899270_974065871_n.jpg)

then i got my idle to a more comfortable mixture range.

(http://scontent-a-iad.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10979580_349133378604755_128262761_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: FJmonkey on February 11, 2015, 08:51:43 PM
Looks like your thumb got the blow off valve installed...
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on February 12, 2015, 07:13:20 AM
Power tools vs. skin... Usually the skin loses. Luckily it appears to be a mere flesh wound... Carry on.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj johnnie on February 12, 2015, 09:10:00 AM
 FJ small leak syndrome. I have experience with those.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on February 12, 2015, 11:51:57 AM
Project can't be completed until you've sacrificed some blood on it!  Key is not to sacrifice too much ..,
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Mark Olson on February 12, 2015, 01:54:55 PM
Quote from: fj1289 on February 12, 2015, 11:51:57 AM
Project can't be completed until you've sacrificed some blood on it!  Key is not to sacrifice too much ..,

+1  This is so true . :good:

I expected to see electrical tape on the finger .. mechanics catch all band-aid.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 12, 2015, 02:26:26 PM
haha that is white electrical tape and paper towel.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Mark Olson on February 12, 2015, 02:40:49 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on February 12, 2015, 02:26:26 PM
haha that is white electrical tape and paper towel.

ahh , it looked like medical silk tape . good job.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 18, 2015, 06:16:16 AM
Well it turns out I did not get my homework done properly. Need to figure out the fuel system. I think I either need a stronger pump or a bypass regulator with the pump I have
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on February 18, 2015, 06:30:18 AM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on February 18, 2015, 06:16:16 AMWell it turns out I did not get my homework done properly. Need to figure out the fuel system. I think I either need a stronger pump or a bypass regulator with the pump I have

I take it that the current fuel pressure cannot exceed boost pressure? How much boost is planned?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 18, 2015, 06:55:08 AM
8 psi of boost the problem I'm having is the Pump is not making the pressure I'm looking for.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on February 18, 2015, 08:29:35 AM
Are you shooting for 13-15# of pressure?

Can't recall how much more pressure the fuel needs to be over the boost. I seem to recall 5+# over boost pressure.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 20, 2015, 09:03:38 AM
WELL i think i got the fuel system sorted. will find out as soon as its not -34 degreesF in ny.

(https://igcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t51.2885-15/11005109_674181896027593_1692544249_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: andyoutandabout on February 21, 2015, 12:09:32 AM
It's getting that steampunk look.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on March 13, 2015, 12:57:55 PM
It's making boost and serious power took it on the highway today. Can't wait to get it 100% and geared more appropriate.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on March 14, 2015, 12:33:37 AM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on March 13, 2015, 12:57:55 PM
It's making boost and serious power took it on the highway today. Can't wait to get it 100% and geared more appropriate.

:yahoo:

More!
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on March 14, 2015, 09:49:20 AM
You're a real P.T.

"Power Teaser"  :biggrin:

C'mon man, spill it. Perspiring minds need to know.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on March 15, 2015, 07:22:20 PM
in the real world

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Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Mark Olson on March 16, 2015, 05:14:42 PM
Looks great , you gotta make a video of this at the track or maybe a drifting vid of you smoking the hell out of that tire.  :yahoo: :drinks:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on March 16, 2015, 05:33:37 PM
Videos coming soon just need to button up a few more things first. I moved the boost referance for the waste gate today. I had it referanced to the manifold before the carbs but I moved it to post carb so now it will spool to whatever pressure is necessary in the manifold in order for the engine to actually see 8 pounds. Now that boost pressure is sitting there waiting for me to open them butterflies. Hits much harder and faster now.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: aviationfred on March 16, 2015, 06:49:47 PM
This project has ended up looking great. Would be awesome to see you and the turbo at a rally.


Fred
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on March 16, 2015, 07:13:29 PM
If their ever is one close enough for me to ride to I sure would.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on March 20, 2015, 06:34:46 PM
got rear breaks again. finally.

(http://fjowners.com/gallery/8/1579_20_03_15_5_10_00.jpeg)

then cut off the passenger peg left on the left side.

before:
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/8/1579_20_03_15_5_08_41.jpeg)

after:
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/8/1579_20_03_15_5_09_26.jpeg)

looking good. she is getting there. still need to figure out my dash situation and gas cap situation also. then paint. new led lightbar on the way in the mail to replace my current shit autozone fog lights
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on March 20, 2015, 06:36:26 PM
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/8/1579_20_03_15_5_12_59.jpeg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: simi_ed on March 20, 2015, 10:10:55 PM
You must get a hell of a a breeze in the cabin with that big 'ol scoop up there.  :biggrin:  :rofl:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on March 28, 2015, 03:27:18 AM
(https://igcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/11098284_676683205793070_814763522_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on March 28, 2015, 09:31:49 AM
Well... How come that front wheel is still on the ground?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on March 28, 2015, 09:53:24 AM
Cuz the weather has been garbage still haha and I got moved to overnight shift at work abd I'm having a hell of a time adjusting.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on March 28, 2015, 10:10:23 AM
I can understand that. Our weather has been mixed, but not too bad for this time of year. I used to work a 12hr. rotating shift for about 15 years. It can be rough.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on March 29, 2015, 08:05:35 AM
Wrapped the exhaust and painted the intercooler black.

(https://igcdn-photos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/11023192_1067563513260714_2109388411_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on March 30, 2015, 07:38:44 AM
That IC looks much better black.

I installed an oversized IC in front of my radiator on my turbo Buick. It is aluminum with an aluminum looking finish. I had thought to paint it black so it wouldn't show up through the grill. I was warned that the paint would act as an insulator & that the heat transfer would be reduced. Don't know if this is true or not.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on March 30, 2015, 08:54:43 AM
(https://scontent-lga.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xap1/t51.2885-15/10731558_758804397568977_1427864329_n.jpg)   


took the bike home yesterday. It feels great when I took the exhaust off to wrap it I found 2 leaky spots on welds that I sealed up and made a huge difference in spool time.




Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on April 01, 2015, 04:05:24 PM
New smaller rear sprocket to more utilize the turbo. Also almost new used tires. A little bit fatter in the rear.

(https://scontent-lga.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xpa1/t51.2885-15/924772_1572087063040822_1913427510_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Firehawk068 on April 01, 2015, 04:37:25 PM
Lookin good!  :good2:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on April 01, 2015, 07:08:09 PM
This is my second favorite build on here - first if you consider this one is "done"!

How's it running?  Have you got the fueling sorted well enough to let it rip?!

I really like the straight forward no-nonsense way this was built - well done
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on April 01, 2015, 10:57:47 PM
Thanks bro. The fueling is good It cranks like a raped ape. Drl400 is in the mail. Clutch is going to be my next step. And no this thing is far from done.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on April 02, 2015, 11:44:19 AM
I'm thinking that a rear wheel hugger fender would look good... If it doesn't melt. You're going to end up with a black stripe on the back of your riding jacket.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on April 02, 2015, 06:25:47 PM
Put a few hours on tel bike today and a rear hugger is not my first concern. My clutch is..
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on April 03, 2015, 07:23:41 AM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on April 02, 2015, 06:25:47 PM
Put a few hours on tel bike today and a rear hugger is not my first concern. My clutch is..

...And shortly after a new clutch, you'll need a new rear tire. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on April 08, 2015, 12:21:26 PM
Latest revision on dash.

(https://igcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t51.2885-15/10956797_370835846436825_330103178_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on April 17, 2015, 08:15:03 AM
Hooked up the two step yesterday. Have not ridden with it yet tho. Hoping to get a few videos tomorrow.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Mark Olson on April 17, 2015, 03:12:32 PM
all is lookin good ,, waitin on them vid's .....that thing is wild.  :wacko1:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on April 18, 2015, 02:55:42 PM
Put a couple hundred miles on the bike today completely ignored 're fact that I'm trying to get some video of this thing for the people.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on April 30, 2015, 02:43:37 PM
How much boost are you getting up to?!   What are you using for fuel?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 01, 2015, 04:13:29 PM
8 pounds of boost on 93 octane.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 01, 2015, 04:28:15 PM
ok been awhile since last update so i will try to keep this in chronological order. first the updated cockpit view with the drl400 2 stage rev limiter.

(http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah275/jnimbostratus/Mobile%20Uploads/0501150905_zps5c47e33a.jpg)

next i had the bike parked outside in some light rain for a few hours while i was napping when i woke up and realize the light mist i ran outside an put it in the shed. 2 days later when i pulled it out to ride it back to the shop and the hot side of the turbo was completly covered in surface rust. so i rode to the shop and this happened.

(http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah275/jnimbostratus/Mobile%20Uploads/0422151145_zpse2cbf550.jpg)

pulled the turbo wired it clean and clear coated. while it was off i cut a new gasket out of thicker material because it was leaking a little where thte exhaust meets the turbo. the turbo cleaned up nice and looked good after the clear. (note- bought the tires used in good condition for 30$ with the yellow tread paint already on them. dont judge me i did not want yellow tread on my bike but for 30$ tires.. ya know)

(http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah275/jnimbostratus/Mobile%20Uploads/0423151159a_zpsd7a260ef.jpg)

with the turbo removed this seemed like an opportune time to pull the full exhaust to excess the drain plug to finaly change the oil. still have the oil from last season before the turbo. now i switched to a lighter and full synthetic oil. right as the high temp clear on the turbo was begining to dry the ups man arrived with my poormans "clutch slip under boost" remedy. which was a aftermarket diaphragm spring that i stacked with the stock spring. the pull at the lever is obnoxiously hard just as i expected from what i read on forums but it is holding super tight no slip on the clutch at all.

(http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah275/jnimbostratus/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150422_163749_zps10c7c9e0.jpg) 

when the clutch was slipping i could not get the bike to break 90mph. first time out with the spring installed i yipped 110 with minimal effort with a huge boost leak do to a accidental improper blow off valve adjustment.

(http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah275/jnimbostratus/Mobile%20Uploads/Screenshot_2015-04-24-16-27-07_zps8d831036.png)

since then i have properly adjusted the blow off as well as i can with my poor vacuum line situation that consists of very poor quality hoses of diferent sizes. i will be getting some good quality silicon vacuum and boost rated hose in the mail soon along with an aluminum vaccum/boost manifold (distribution block)
to clean it all up. i pulled the tank to do some carb tuning and snapped a shot of the vacuum line disaster for you to see. the 2 hoses by where intake manifold meet the intercooler pipe are for the fuel pressure regulator which is bolted to the tank. one line is fuel to carbs and the one with the bolt in it is boost line to regulator its plugged cuz i was chasing a vaccum leak.

(http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah275/jnimbostratus/Mobile%20Uploads/0430150912a_zpsb22da611.jpg)

then made some carb adjustments

(http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah275/jnimbostratus/Mobile%20Uploads/0430151016_zps3f75d5b5.jpg)

then i put it all back together and made an adjustment on the fuel pressure regulator accidentally in the wrong direction because i forgot i ran the bowls dry chasing the pesky vacuum leak. so on my quick testride about a mile out i was broke down on the side of the road. while a was waiting for my father to deliver me an adjustable wrench and an allen wrench for the side of the road repair i was able to get some nice scenic photos of my bike.

(http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah275/jnimbostratus/Mobile%20Uploads/0430151224_zps3897ef09.jpg)

(http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah275/jnimbostratus/Mobile%20Uploads/0430151223a_zpsc75f369a.jpg)

got the fpr situated on the side of the road then took it back to the shop very satisfied with the carb adjustment. my father said from inside his truck the turbo was incredibly loud. once i got to the shop i parked it and went home and went to bed. and that brings us to this morning after i got out of work. the only hometown registered motorcycle inspector that i am aware of told me 2 weeks ago he would no pass my without visible blinkers and a high and low beam. my old blinkers in the front were now coverd by oil cooler and no longer visible and the rear blocked by turbo. so i made some ghetto integrated led shit in the rear. and mounted small amber led marker lights as signals upfront off the headlight mount. and for a low beam i just mounted one of my old fogs i was using for headlights before the led headlight. i will prob remove the low beam after i get my inspection sticker.

(http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah275/jnimbostratus/Mobile%20Uploads/0501151242a_zps6346e7f7.jpg)

(http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah275/jnimbostratus/Mobile%20Uploads/0501151242_zps7bb7ebc4.jpg)

writing this post was exhausting lol
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj johnnie on May 01, 2015, 04:32:38 PM
 Good work. Looks better and better.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Bones on May 01, 2015, 04:59:56 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on May 01, 2015, 04:28:15 PM


(http://i1382.photobucket.com/albums/ah275/jnimbostratus/Mobile%20Uploads/0501151242_zps7bb7ebc4.jpg)




You don't have a flat head with bolts sticking out of your neck by chance, because I can picture someone like him riding this thing :biggrin:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Mark Olson on May 02, 2015, 02:37:48 PM
Wow ! that thing is a monster alright , and a ton of fun as well . Way cool Jr.  :drinks:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Firehawk068 on May 02, 2015, 10:42:22 PM
Quote from: Mark Olson on May 02, 2015, 02:37:48 PM
Way cool Jr.  :drinks:

Mark, you a "RATT" fan?  :good2:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on May 03, 2015, 09:29:38 AM
I've never thought to take some good pics during my many roadside "break downs".

I like low beam headlight - gives it a cyborg look that goes with the rest of the build -- and it's yet another case of form follows function on this build.   

With the intercooler I'd bet you can stand more than 8 pounds on 93 octane.   Do you have E85 available in your area?  There are some seasonal changes to the blend that may have to be rejected for a couple times a year .... Not too difficult though if you come to the dark side with EFI (and cookies!)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Mark Olson on May 03, 2015, 03:38:08 PM
Quote from: Firehawk068 on May 02, 2015, 10:42:22 PM
Quote from: Mark Olson on May 02, 2015, 02:37:48 PM
Way cool Jr.  :drinks:

Mark, you a "RATT" fan?  :good2:

They had a couple of hits that were cool .. :dance:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 03, 2015, 03:56:29 PM
Unfortunately I have no clue where the nearest place to get e85 around me. I have been very tempted to up the boost a bit but I don't think it's time for that yet.. yet...
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on May 04, 2015, 06:42:38 AM
I realize that this is a bit of apples & oranges comparison... I have a turbocharged Buick V-6 Regal. With a front mounted intercooler & a 160 degree thermostat. I can run 16lbs of boost on 91 pump gas without any knock/detonation.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 07, 2015, 12:12:12 PM
I have to say I am disappointed in the power. It seems to just not have what it should. It feels fast and has no stumbles or hiccups but I went on the gearing commander website which indicates that with the gearing and tire size my bike has cucurrently that my top speed per gear should be much greater then they are currently. I wonder If it is a tuning issue or a tired motor or even my exhaust which is very poorly designed. Its just a 45 degree slash cut into a hole in the side of can with no packing.  Tell me what you think.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: the fan on May 07, 2015, 12:21:33 PM
Do you have a tach on it and if so how does the RPM compare to what is listed on the gearing commander site?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 07, 2015, 12:28:46 PM
I have my rev limiter set at 10,250 and put 10,000 as the max rev on gearing commander.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 07, 2015, 12:46:21 PM
I just went back and realised that what I thought Was max rpm is max power rpm. Where the stock curve is making peak power according to gearing commander. 

How do these top speed per gear figures compare to your bikes?

http://www.gearingcommander.com (http://www.gearingcommander.com)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: the fan on May 07, 2015, 03:10:54 PM
I don't have an FJ, but the GC calculations were pretty close for my YZF when comparing RPM to speed. This was based on use of a GPS lap timer, speedo that included a fairly accurate digital tachometer. I was able to compare the results to what I was seeing on the track.  Many things can affect top speed and a bikes ability to achieve it. Also keep in mind that the calculations are based on RPM times gearing with a correction for tire diameter.

Additional horsepower and torque will have no effect on this other than rate of acceleration and ability to overcome frictional loss.

I am not 100% sure what you are looking for but even if you double the horsepower your ground speed at a given RPM will be the same as a stock machine. Factor in the inaccuracies of the stock speedo and tach and your results can vary significantly at higher speed from what the math shows.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 07, 2015, 05:17:56 PM
I'm just a little baffled at how far off it is. With my gearing and tire size factored into gearing commander the top speed for 4th gear should be 130 mph and I'm not hitting 100 in 4th. I wonder if I back off as it hits rev limit if it will continue to accelerate. If this is the case then my problem is the clutch still. That would not surprise me considering I attempted to remedy my shot clutch by just adding an additional diaphragm spring and leaving shot clutch pack I only did this because I am kind of in a transitionary point employment wise so cheap was the only option.

And 'the fan' I understand what your saying that all the power in the world and It won't change xrpms times ygear = zspeed. I wasn't thinking clearly before but this makes me certain it's a clutch issue thank you for helping me think clearly about it. The accuracy of my teach and Speedo I'm certain of because the tech matches perfectly the setting of the dyna rev limiter. And Speedo is gps
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Mark Olson on May 07, 2015, 06:05:52 PM
3rd gear will get you over 100mph . Sounds like you are correct about the clutch.   Try to start off in 3rd gear sitting on the bike , rev to about 4k and dump the clutch .

If it slips like crazy and moves forward , the clutch is bad.
If the engine dies / stalls out , clutch is good .
If the rear tire lights up , clutch is very good.  :wacko1:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on May 08, 2015, 07:30:34 AM
Does your exhaust turbine discharge run into a wall, or does it flow through a nice curve? The discharge should have a smooth, restriction free flow path.

I'm not familiar with your computer issue.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 08, 2015, 08:00:59 AM
The exhaust hits a wall. I plan to a dress this as soon as I start my new job.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 08, 2015, 02:22:27 PM
Made new "downpipe" today. Flows much better obviously, what wouldnt? That muffler setup I had on this was super restrictive. It sounds much more aggressive now also.

(https://igcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/11255646_431001757071494_527267118_n.jpg)

(https://igcdn-photos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t51.2885-15/11244965_1567600986825607_1866258073_n.jpg) 



After that I went to check my clutch theory eased into it and as soon as boost started to build the bike accelerated and rooms climbed to redline. Then I did it again and as soon as boost hit I pulled back a hair on the throttle and the bike accelerated like a Fucking rocketship all the way 101mph in 3rd at just about 10,000rpm. When I just lay into it I was maxing 80ish at 10,250 rev limit. So I think it's safe to say I need a clutch pack. It was incredible to see how much power it really is making tho. I believe with a good clutch I will be able to break the rear loose at highway speed. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on May 08, 2015, 02:48:04 PM
looked back through the thread but didn't see what you were running for a clutch...

Have you seen this?  http://www.fjmods.co.uk/Shammas.htm (http://www.fjmods.co.uk/Shammas.htm)

6 psi boost was enough to slip the stock clutch.  He went to a Barnett coil spring conversion - that was good until 15 psi.  Went to a lockup after that


Talking with Randy for the Bonneville trip, he suggested doubling up on the stock clutch diagram spring.  Then, if that wasn't enough - triple it up!  I'll bet 2 springs will hold what you have now - and a LOT cheaper than a coil spring conversion.  But, if you get to the point 2 stock springs won't hold, you'll probably want to go to a lock up (which will require a coil spring conversion) so you can have a reasonable clutch pull for daily riding and still have enough clamp force to hold the horsepower! 

Some problems are good to have ....  :diablo:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 08, 2015, 02:54:12 PM
I installed a second diaphram spring a few weeks ago currently running 2 I think the problem is I left stock plates and discs and they are probably  shot.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on May 08, 2015, 03:40:11 PM
I'd recommend going with Yamaha plates.  As long as your stock steels aren't warped (clutch would be draggy and difficult to shift to neutral, etc) they should be good. 

You can ditch the stock judder spring at the bottom of the clutch stack and go with an additional "large" friction plate, but some people have had noticeably grabbier clutches by doing that.  I've never had an issue doing this. 

You MAY want to try Barnett steels - they are completely smooth and will have more holding power, but may be "grabby" compared to the stock steels. 

At 8 psi I'd think that 2 diaphragm springs would hold (160ish HP?)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Bones on May 09, 2015, 01:22:38 AM
How much more power can a turbo make. I know it all depends on boost settings and such, but would an extra 100hp tops be unrealistic, if so that would be about 230hp out of an FJ engine, which would put it ahead of the current super bike category. :shok:

There's a bloke on Youtube called Ghostrider with a turbo Hyabusa that's popping wheel stands at over 300 kph, crazy stuff, but shows what power a turbo can put out. Keep us posted.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 09, 2015, 02:21:33 AM
The general idea is every 1psi of boost is good for 10-12 hp. Ther are a lot of variables tho I know some car guys that are getting 20+ hp per psi.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 12, 2015, 03:19:33 AM
I have had a few peole ask me about riding position outside of this forum so i figure i will show everyone since the picture was taken anyway.


(https://igcdn-photos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/11264280_439652909527648_447787328_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ~JM~ on May 12, 2015, 07:14:15 AM
Doesn't look like you will be picking up any passengers with that bike.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 12, 2015, 07:31:44 AM
No passengers welcome


Sound clip of the new exhaust

Fj1100 turbo new downpipe: https://youtu.be/TnfNIqeMRNE
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: FJmonkey on May 12, 2015, 07:38:43 AM
That sounds fast and powerful, sweet...  :good2:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 12, 2015, 10:47:09 AM
Fjmonkey if you liked that one you will prob love this one.


Video of 2step at 3000 4000 5000 and 6000 rpm. Making decent boost by 5000. Stock timing curve static retard 5 degrees. Once i get the dyna2000 i can pull timing like an antilag on the 2 step and should be able to have full spool @3000. Its not on my clutch switch but wired to a button on my handlebar (horn button) so i can spool her up while driving in an attempt to get some good drift footage. This was how i came to realise my clutch was still shot and i was not seeing an increfibly large portion of the bikes power. Hold the button spool turbo then hit revlimit and barley go anywhere. Clutch coming soon..

Fj1100 turbo 2step.: https://youtu.be/QBwbOAMwaas
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: FJmonkey on May 12, 2015, 11:15:25 AM
Wow!!! I can hear the turbine spin down after the throttle chop.... Very cool, you need to look at getting some wider tires, or invest in a tire company to help your operating cost... I still think you need a Kookaloo ass hump on your seat, even more now.... Slip back too far and you will find that Jeans are no match for the rear wheel or pavement... Still sounding real good dude...
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 14, 2015, 06:31:53 PM
Couple flyby videos to prove the bike actually works I been saying they are coming just Havnt had a willing or available filmer. Both videos half throttle or less on account trying to keep clutch from slipping. 1St one No boost just wanted to hear the exhaust. Second on boosted a bit passed the camera at about 107.

Fj1100 turbo flyby 1: https://youtu.be/x058UUCz4v4


Fj1100 turbo flyby 2: https://youtu.be/K1dOqLgiZwI
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: FJmonkey on May 14, 2015, 07:14:50 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on May 14, 2015, 06:31:53 PM
Couple flyby videos to prove the bike actually works I been saying they are coming just Havnt had a willing or available filmer. Both videos half throttle or less on account trying to keep clutch from slipping. 1St one No boost just wanted to hear the exhaust. Second on boosted a bit passed the camera at about 107.

Fj1100 turbo flyby 1: https://youtu.be/x058UUCz4v4


Fj1100 turbo flyby 2: https://youtu.be/K1dOqLgiZwI

The second vid seems much shorter... You must have been buzzing the tower at mach 2...  :good:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Mark Olson on May 14, 2015, 07:28:54 PM
sweet .. :good2:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 16, 2015, 01:26:55 AM
Won a fj1200 trans on eBay for 30$ that I will get undercut. Wanted to have a second core to keep downtime to a minimal. Once this is done and nee clutch installed I will be ready to see what my 1/4 mile et is.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: FJmonkey on May 16, 2015, 09:46:45 AM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on May 16, 2015, 01:26:55 AM
Won a fj1200 trans on eBay for 30$ that I will get undercut. Wanted to have a second core to keep downtime to a minimal. Once this is done and nee clutch installed I will be ready to see what my 1/4 mile et is.

Good plan, with that kind of HP, a spare set of (under cut) gears might be handy.  :shok:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 20, 2015, 01:05:26 AM
The new trans came in the mail and appears to be in very good shape. I'm contemplating just throwing it in with The detent spring kit just to get through the season. I honestly don't see myself having $400+ to put into this trans anytime soon.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Mark Olson on May 21, 2015, 06:08:04 AM
 put the upgraded shift forks in ,that will hold you for awhile.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Troyskie on May 24, 2015, 01:29:55 AM
 (popcorn)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 27, 2015, 03:14:32 AM
Have some issues lately. The o2 sensor has fouled, most likely from the pressure of being pre turbo. Boost gauge took a shit (I dropped it) and the intake manifold is blowing off of the carbs every time I spool it. I plan to make some mounts on the carbs and on the manifold so I can bolt them together to prevent this from happening again. I did some more tuning and fuel system revisions and it feels a lot torquier on the bottom but this was when the manifold started blowing off. I don't see how anything could cause this other then more boost so now I'm concerned about my waste gate.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on May 28, 2015, 04:57:12 PM
Maybe the issue is how quickly the boost is building now?

I know just a little about turbos - and no hands on experience, but I do know the challenges that come with working outside the "usual" set of mods and the learning curve and frustration that come with it -- and the dedication to keep pushing past all the "little" issues...

Well done.  Keep it up!
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 29, 2015, 02:44:39 PM
Thanks for the props fj1289 and everyone else who have given me any between the attention here and on the streetfighter forum it has been easy to stay motivated with all the positive feed back.

Made some progress today, made mounts to "suck" the manifold onto the carbs. Made a world of difference. Not only keeping the manifold mounted but I think the compression may have squeezed out a boost leak somewhere.

One day at a time chipping away at the block

(https://igcdn-photos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t51.2885-15/11296703_891516590906888_1193370588_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on May 30, 2015, 10:23:21 PM
Which street fighter site?  CF?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 30, 2015, 11:40:39 PM
That's the one. The only time my posts are different between here and cf are when I'm responding to someone specific. Updates are always verbatim.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on June 03, 2015, 04:39:15 PM
Finally had nice enough weather to test drive the bike for first time after getting the manifold to stay on with the fuel pressure regulator adjusted with the latest fuel system revision and I am very happy with the results. I keep getting more power out of it but still have hurtin clutch and no second gear.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on June 04, 2015, 12:07:11 AM
Yeah - there's no good time to pull the motor and split the cases. Just had to do it on the BattleAxe to replace the starter gear.  Made it a quick 2 evening job. Just DO IT!

You ready to go EFI yet?!

Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on June 04, 2015, 12:59:15 AM
Ther is no reservations to "Just do it" lol lack of funds for undercutting and parts is what holding me back.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on June 04, 2015, 05:51:03 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on June 04, 2015, 12:59:15 AM
Ther is no reservations to "Just do it" lol lack of funds for undercutting and parts is what holding me back.

If second is giving you issues now I'd highly encourage you to put the other trans and forks in it now (and baby them a bit until you can get an undercut trans in it).  Then get the current setup undercut when funds allow.  It is possible to jack up second gear bad enough that undercutting won't clean up the dogs.  You may want to get first cut too when you get it done - I've buggered up first on a stock trans I was drag racing on.  Don't know if the turbo will stress it enough to cause problems later. 
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on June 05, 2015, 10:55:04 AM
The trans that is in it currently I believe to be beyond repair already. That's why I plan to just undercut the spare before it go's in. I just don't touch the throttle till third gear right now.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on June 05, 2015, 11:08:33 AM
understand - no worries - I'm just eager to see you be able to really get on it!   :good2:

When you're ready, I'd talk with Randy.  I think he has a deal worked out with Fast by Gast in NY-- they do excellent work - I've had two transmissions done by them. 

Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on June 09, 2015, 12:18:17 PM
Been tweaking and tuning here is a first gear launch for your enjoyment. I can't get enough of that sound. I don't get to hear that on the bike I just hear exhaust and wind mostly

Fj1100 turbo launch: https://youtu.be/F0BksK_6zcg
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on June 13, 2015, 06:59:51 AM
Internet must be broken, I thought that video would have gotten Some kind of response.


The more I look at this used trans sitting on the bench the more I believe it has been undercut but only one gear. Does anyone have pictures before and after cutting of their tranny.or even just after.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ct7088 on June 13, 2015, 07:20:57 AM
The people most active in responding are recovering from some high mileage touring and trying to catch up on their various chores. The rally's would have been fun. When your project is all complete is your objective top speed, quarter mile times or road racing? I've wondered how stable the FJ is at high speed without the faring. Not being able to finish a project is always a major irritation.  Thanks for allowing us to watch your progress.

Chris
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on June 13, 2015, 11:58:40 AM
Do to the way I clocked the turbo housings I was not able to use the turbo mounted waste gate actuator bracket so I made a bracket mounted off the subframe. It turns out that bracket has a little more flex in it then I expected. So I screwed in the actuator rod end until it would only mount the waste gate flapper arm when I pushed the actuator mount to its fully "flexed" point. This made a huge difference. I must have been mildly bleeding exhaust out the waste gate this whole time. The turbo spools much lower in the revs now but the clutch slips much worse now also tho. Now the bike blows off harder on the 2step set at 3000 rpm then it did before set at 6000 rpm. Now I really can't wait to see what this beast will do with a clutch and second gear.

And to answer your question ct7088 I want to do it all. Mostly because I was told I couldn't. But really I just want it to be the hooligan I know it will be. Go drifting down main street in the morning then throw a slick on the rear and run 9s come sundown at the strip. I don't expect it to do to well on a circuit course but I damn sure going to go and find out.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: copper on June 13, 2015, 01:38:08 PM
Probably the best person to talk to is Randy, he has transmissions in stock. I think Yamaha undercut some of the gears but not all of them

http://rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=UCT (http://rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=UCT)

(http://rpmracingca.com/prodimages/large/UCT-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: FJmonkey on June 13, 2015, 01:48:53 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on June 13, 2015, 06:59:51 AM
Internet must be broken, I thought that video would have gotten Some kind of response.


The more I look at this used trans sitting on the bench the more I believe it has been undercut but only one gear. Does anyone have pictures before and after cutting of their tranny.or even just after.

If you have the gears out post a few pics, focus on the dogs that engage the gears. It is easy to tell if they have been undercut.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: The General on June 13, 2015, 02:11:34 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on June 13, 2015, 06:59:51 AM
Internet must be broken, I thought that video would have gotten Some kind of response.
I`m in awe of people with your skills!
As I watched your video my first thought was "what a beast"! Performance matched my expectation, but what lingered in my mind was an image that didn`t synch with everything else.

It reminded me of some past disappointments with lust.
....now don`t get me wrong here....there`s a difference between lust and love. I can think of many examples where Ugly defied all expectations of Love....esp if she is Quirky, has some great moves and is dripping with ostentatousity!
But when you just can`t close your eyes and enjoy the ride...and when the smoke is finished and your looking at her rear end....you don`t want anything that is not in synch with the experience, cause it overrides that savouring memory our genes seek, me thinks.
When you yearn for action to overcome this slight, it takes a man of great courage to bring up the subject. The risk is even greater when he is in Love....but here goes....
"She has an ugly arse!"   :sorry:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Mark Olson on June 13, 2015, 04:49:15 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on June 13, 2015, 06:59:51 AM
Internet must be broken, I thought that video would have gotten Some kind of response.


The more I look at this used trans sitting on the bench the more I believe it has been undercut but only one gear. Does anyone have pictures before and after cutting of their tranny.or even just after.

I believe there are pics in the gallery of gears , and also in the files section for 2nd gear fix where there are a couple of write-ups . I dug through it a while ago and found them so take a moment and do some searching.

I made the mistake of buying a used trans and it ended up being junk .... :dash2: :dash2:
So I just bought the whole gearset from Randy with all the gears undercut and have been happy ever since .

With you running a turbo, I would just get the whole set up along with the beefy shift forks and then you can play to your hearts content.. :good2:

I may have a few pics to look at If I can find them .. I will post latter .
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on June 13, 2015, 09:02:11 PM
Nice video - my jaw dropped at the beginning - thought you were going to launch in the gravel! :shok:  get the clutch sorted and you'll be doing proper smokey rolling burn outs!

I don't remember what you have for the clutch - stock with two springs?  Or the coil spring conversion?  Think I've said it before - if you don't mind the lever pull, Randy suggested three ! springs for the Bonneville setup with nitrous if it started slipping with two!  Or, you can try a simple lockup conversion.   I just found out Orient Express still sells the lockup "spider" or "hat"... Problem is they sell it bare - no arms, pivot pins, or screws.   Fairly easy to source those pieces.  The price with the clutch cover spacer was $125, without the cover spacer was  just $50!  You will need the spacer to f you don't have one (or a cover modified for more clearance). 
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on June 26, 2015, 09:12:42 PM
I moved the o2 sensor after the turbo for more accurate reading. Then I put a spark plug in the old bung right before the turbo. Now on the 2step I have a fully spooled flame shooting turbo (antilag) with the push of a button. I could not believe how much fun this made things. I can get full boost out of my 57trim in neutral. Then I parked the bike an went to bed. Woke up to go to work and the bike is hitting a wall at about 3800 rpm. Not sure what it is but I fear the worst. I was beating the poss out of this thing yesterday. I think it may just be an electrical bug tho.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on June 29, 2015, 03:08:07 PM
All that boost must have forced some crud in some places, cleaned carbs and all is good again. This thing is wild... something interesting happened with the clutch last week but it seems to be holding much more power now. Still slipping under certain situations tho.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on June 30, 2015, 03:05:52 PM
If you like power this little clip will most likely give you a chubb.

Fj1100 turbo antilag: https://youtu.be/iOypn57Lv9s
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Troyskie on June 30, 2015, 04:19:41 PM
 :good: (popcorn)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on July 10, 2015, 10:29:42 PM
Finally bit the bullet and ordered a clutch. Got a deal on eBay for a new ferodo racing set.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: groome on July 18, 2015, 05:15:32 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on June 30, 2015, 03:05:52 PM
If you like power this little clip will most likely give you a chubb.

Fj1100 turbo antilag: https://youtu.be/iOypn57Lv9s

that is freaking awesome. it sounds sooo naughty  :good2: :biggrin:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on August 14, 2015, 01:10:50 AM
Well after multiple issues with float needles and seats I am saying screw it and will be constructing a new intake manifold with injector bungs in it and will be ordering a microsquirt. Prob won't be on her wheels again till spring. But at that point I will have second gear and I'm looking for about 350hp. Don't worry I will update every step of the way.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on August 20, 2015, 01:22:15 AM
Started building efi system. Intake manifold will have multiport injectors and utilize a single throttle body. More like a traditional car efi setup.

(https://igcdn-photos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/11328262_1483840235243452_246861785_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on August 21, 2015, 12:55:22 PM
Leaving the turbo behind the engine?

Are you putting the throttle body before the turbo?  If so, does that mean you wouldn't need a blow off valve?  I know you'd need the special draw-thru oil seals in the turbo -- but you already have those since that's the configuration you were running in. 

Keeping the intercooler?



Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on August 23, 2015, 06:12:15 PM
Turbo staying in same location intercooler also. Throttle body will be right before intake manifold so I will still use a blow off. But I did not have a draw through setup before. I have always been blow through.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on August 24, 2015, 01:34:22 AM
 :dash2:  I got your setup confused with someone I've been discussing another setup with.

Where will the single TB mount - end of the log?  Or to the center of the log?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on August 24, 2015, 01:57:19 PM
Tb location is going to come down to real estate  once I go to the local salvage yard and pick one out and decide where the most efficient location is. I took the carbs to the salvage yard to do some comparing and it looks like a Honda b16 fuel rail will put the injectors center of each intake runner
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: skymasteres on September 02, 2015, 12:49:40 PM
You know, I've been playing around with this idea in my head forever. But with your level of skill and ability to "make it work" I think I'll share. (Especially since I'll probably never ever get to it)

Why hasn't anyone setting up a turbo on an FJ turned the cylinder head around?  I mean, the spark plug orientation doesn't change. The cams are semetric so all you have to do is turn them over. The only thing I can see being a slight issue is the oil galley passage coming up from the cylinder block. But I think it'd be pretty easy to solve that one. (A little drilling and plugging and you should be good to go)

Plus it would make for a MUCH cleaner turbo install. I mean, you get all of the advantages of heat retention putting the turbo under the seat close to the exhaust. (You might have to be creative with getting the right primary length for the exhaust though. You still need some length for good scavenging and timing)

It makes the intake side a lot easier too since you might be able to squeeze the compressed air tube over the valve cover and go straight to the intercooler in the front. You'd definitely want to go fuel injection though.

It also means you're going back and forth a lot less with the tubing which saves weight,  reduces your losses, tightens up your boost response, and makes more power. (That and with less tubing you right actually be able to make it a "stealth" instalation. Just about tuck it under the original body work. (The only really weird part would be dealing with the throttle body and intercooler bits)

I don't know. I've just been playing around with the idea for a while. I like it a lot. (Though it's only been in my head) I still am not good enough on the bike to use all the power it has naturally aspirated...
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Pat Conlon on September 02, 2015, 01:27:42 PM
There is a reason the exhaust valves are in front. Those exhaust valves need air flow, so the exhaust valves and manifold under the seat....Hmmmm
What could go wrong?

The turbo mounted low in front is superior for cooling and spool up.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: skymasteres on September 02, 2015, 06:31:40 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 02, 2015, 01:27:42 PM
There is a reason the exhaust valves are in front. Those exhaust valves need air flow, so the exhaust valves and manifold under the seat....Hmmmm
What could go wrong?

The turbo mounted low in front is superior for cooling and spool up.

Geeze Pat, I would have thought you'd put at least a little more thought into it before poo pooing the idea.

The heat isn't the main issue. Though,  like any engineering process,  it's all about balancing the imprtance of the design objectives. The low and tight, mounted off the front, turbo arrangement is ideal with minimal complications. Only issues that I thought of when considering this were the oil return line, wheel clearence, and exposure to the elements. The main advantages are the free access to frontal cooling air and the lack of exhaust tubing surface area to loose heat from.

The heat issue with the heads is secondary to the packaging of the exhaust system and the length of the primary tubes. That and the typical induction system, airbox and carbs, won't fit in that space to the front of the engine.  They can, and already do, duct air for supplemental cooling. If you look at the stock exhaust header collars you'll notice that they're finned aluminum to provide more surface area for heat exchange.  As long as you can get ambient air to it,  AND get it exhausted,  you're good. 

The main issue is proper ducting. As a general rule,  you want 4 times the amont of intake area for your exhaust.  In aviation a properly ducted reciprocating engine can actually produce a negative net drag because of the changes on air density and velocity  as it travels through the bay.

On the FJ it would be a matter of actually sitting down and looking critically at the heat sources, where you can get ambient air, and where you can dump it.  (Obviously you can't expect to take air that has already absorbed the heat of cooling the head and cylinders and expect to cool the turbo and exhaust with it.. .) But, if you keep your temperature deltas high, it's completely doable.



Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ribbert on September 02, 2015, 06:39:30 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 02, 2015, 01:27:42 PM
There is a reason the exhaust valves are in front. Those exhaust valves need air flow, so the exhaust valves and manifold under the seat....Hmmmm
What could go wrong?

The turbo mounted low in front is superior for cooling and spool up.

Haha, doesn't seem to worry this guy.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/494216294033257/permalink/792569020864648/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/494216294033257/permalink/792569020864648/)

Noel
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Pat Conlon on September 02, 2015, 08:06:27 PM
Noel, I don't do Facebook so I can't log on.

Mike, many aftermarket turbo kits are made for various motorcycles. See the offerings by Mr. Turbo and Big CC Racing to name a few. These kits all mount the turbo low in front. Wheel clearance is not an issue nor is the oil drain. Google "turbo motorcycle pictures" you will see many more examples.

Putting a glowing cherry red exhaust manifold and turbine tucked away under your seat may sound like no big deal to you....or reversing the head so the absolutely hottest part of the engine is now located in the spot with the least airflow, well go ahead and flame away** all I can say is that, I wouldn't do it.

**Get it? Flame away? Where do I come up with this stuff?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: FJmonkey on September 02, 2015, 08:51:34 PM
Got you covered Pat....

(http://smileys.emoticonsonly.com/emoticons/f/flame_thrower-2424.gif)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: ribbert on September 03, 2015, 08:00:56 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 02, 2015, 08:06:27 PM
Noel, I don't do Facebook so I can't log on.


I don't either, I didn't realise that was the link, below is a still from the video.

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5640/20921986579_f00ce3a3df_c.jpg)

No comment necessary.

Noel
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: skymasteres on September 03, 2015, 08:43:26 AM
Pat, I'm seriously not trying to hijack jnimbostratus' thread. I just presented an idea that I'd been playing around with for some time. The idea was for a clean, efficient,  and less obvious install. I haven't seen any argument yet that shows a hurdle that is the Achilles heel of the concept.  Yes the heat is an issue, but it's not insurmountable.  I looked at some of those turbo low and forward setups.  Some of them are very clean and are definitely a good way to go if you don't mind hanging the turbo out like that.

One important note though for anyone reading this. IF a turbo is cherry red, it is NOT a happy turbo. It is being over driven.  (You'll  see promotional pictures of hot hard working turbos, but this is VERY bad for the turbo.) When metals are heated to those temperatures they expand then shrink when they cool. They actually shrink down to less than their original size.  (We used to take advantage of this when heating axel tubes to adjust a read end for more camber by shrinking the top of the tube to tilt the axes by about a degree where they entered the differential housing. ) Some of you have don't the same thing by heating your head stem bearing so it'll drop out. This shrinking will produce internal stresses in the turbo and eventually either Crack the housing or cause misalignment in the bearings and or turbine wheels.

The other big concept of turbo operation that I think is being missed is where the heat goes.  Turbos aren't jet engines. They're not little thermo nuclear devices that produce their own heat.  What they are is a way to harness the waste heat of the engine and extract work from it to compress the intake system. Yes there is a backpressure penalty,  but the heat is doing the heavy lifting. The exhaust gas exiting the turbo is actually significantly cooler than it was entering the turbo because of the energy that has been reclaimed to drive the complessor.

Are turbos hot?  Yes they are. But like every machine in this world,  they don't give you something for nothing.  They'll only get as hot as the volume of exhaust energy you put into them.  (They just let you make more power, which means more exhaust energy,  which means more power and so on till other factors limit scaling)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Steve_in_Florida on September 03, 2015, 08:47:57 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 02, 2015, 08:06:27 PM

...I don't do Facebook so I can't log on.


And I thought *I* was the only one!

Steve
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Arnie on September 03, 2015, 10:16:34 AM
Quote from: Steve_in_Florida on September 03, 2015, 08:47:57 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 02, 2015, 08:06:27 PM

...I don't do Facebook so I can't log on.


And I thought *I* was the only one!

Steve

I thlnk there are many of us who just don't see the point of Facebook, but do realize the dangers,  So, you're in good company Steve :-)

Arnie
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on September 10, 2015, 04:20:04 PM
Quote from: Arnie on September 03, 2015, 10:16:34 AM
Quote from: Steve_in_Florida on September 03, 2015, 08:47:57 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 02, 2015, 08:06:27 PM

...I don't do Facebook so I can't log on.


And I thought *I* was the only one!

Steve

ditto

I thlnk there are many of us who just don't see the point of Facebook, but do realize the dangers,  So, you're in good company Steve :-)

Arnie
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on September 30, 2015, 04:26:38 PM
I read thru your earlier posts - I see you are using a T3/4 hybrid turbo.  Where did you purchase it?  What is the AR of the turbine side?

Would you go with this turbo again - or try a different model if you were to try this again?

Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on December 22, 2015, 07:24:16 PM
Wow totally didn't realize I had neglected to put my updates on this forum as I have been updating my build thread on the custom fighter forum. But first to answer the question about the turbo size. The only thing I may do differently would be a smaller ar48 hot side but I don't want to make that decision till after the fuel injection is done...

Since my last post on here I ditched my old plan when I scored a clean set of cbr1000rr throttle bodies for 22$ shipped. Fyi the spacing is about perfect. I will now post some pics.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on December 22, 2015, 07:38:35 PM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xtf1/t51.2885-15/e35/11351581_649899818485093_327683083_n.jpg)

(https://scontent-dfw1-1.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xft1/t51.2885-15/e35/12224409_422880241241562_1453948377_n.jpg)

(https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xat1/t51.2885-15/e35/12237135_514352398739707_637768671_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on December 22, 2015, 07:52:58 PM
Also main reason this bikes progress has been slow is because I built a quad. A raptor660 with an fzr600 engine. It's basically done and I have ridden it and it's a effing blast fastest and most fun I have ridden. If anyone is interested here's the link for that thread


http://www.customfighters.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114018 (http://www.customfighters.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114018)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on December 23, 2015, 07:40:37 PM
Anyone here have any experience with megasquirt or microsquirt? If so I have a few questions that Google can't seem to answer for me. I'm wondering if I can piggyback the stock tci with the microsquirt in order to retarded timing based on boost. What is the signal from the stock pickup into the stock tci?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on December 24, 2015, 01:35:50 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on December 23, 2015, 07:40:37 PM
Anyone here have any experience with megasquirt or microsquirt? If so I have a few questions that Google can't seem to answer for me. I'm wondering if I can piggyback the stock tci with the microsquirt in order to retarded timing based on boost. What is the signal from the stock pickup into the stock tci?

I'm pretty sure you can't "piggyback" the stock ignition system like that.   You should be able to do a "fuel only" install using the stock ignition system.   Or you can do a full up "fuel and spark" install.   Setting up the ignition is easy and can make good use of junk yard parts if you want.   I sourced an XJR trigger wheel and pickup from Randy.   I can give you the microsquirt ignition settings to get you started.   You'll want to use "logic level" coils with the microsquirt setup.   Logic level coils use a 5 volt signal from the ECU to trigger vice a 12 volt like conventional coils.   Essentially each coil is an individual self contained electronic ignition system - so the ECU just has to tell it when to fire instead of having to power the coil. 

I'm using four Chevy "LS1" coils and they are plenty healthy.   The "Truck" coils are hotter still - and will fire off pretty much ANYTHING you'll throw at them - especially on an FJ (wouldn't imagine you're going for more than 30 # of boost on nitromethane...!)

Then the sky is the limit for what you want to do with ignition timing - complete 3D mapped ignition throughout your rev and boost range.   Plus additional ignition settings for retard if you want to add a stage of nitrous for additional intercooling or quick spooling, anti-lag settings for launch, etc.   

Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on December 24, 2015, 10:54:44 PM
Thanks for your input I was hoping to be able to piggy back the stock tci so I could use the stock coils knowing that the the microsquirt has no onboard coil drivers I was thinking maybe I could just use the tci inline as an igniter by putting the 0-5v logic level output from the microsquirt to the pickupcoil input on the tci and basically just utilize the tci coil drivers. I guess at this point in the bikes live if I have to spend some more $ on a set of lsx coils then it is what it is.

Fuel only ms setup on a custom turbo bike is something I just couldn't do knowing the ms has the ability to do both. I have done loads of research on the ms. Like years worth but not much info on the web about what I was trying to do with the tci. I'm still going back and forth about my plan for a pickup. Were you happy with your setup? And if your willing to share I would love a copy of your msq. You use tuner studio or megatune? Also what's your setup? Naturally aspirated or forced induction? What map sensor? Might be easier just to look at a build thread if you have one lol. Btw happy holidays .
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on December 24, 2015, 11:06:55 PM
Also did the fjr pickup direct fit or require machining? I just looked at them on eBay and if it's a direct fit I will go that route. If I requires modification I will prob opt for something with better resolution.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on December 27, 2015, 05:06:25 PM
Ok - I understand now -- you're basically looking to use the FJ TCI as a coil driver. 

The key to this is going to be determining what type of signal the TCI requires and how it triggers.   

You will need to determine if the TCI can work with the microsquirt 5 volt output.  If not, then build a circuit to convert the 5 volt output to something the TCI understands.   Anyone know what type of input signal the TCI will respond to?

Either way, you'll need a trigger wheel.  The fuel injected XJR (NOT FJR) is a direct bolt on.  It needs to be the multi-toothed wheel from a fuel injected XJR - it is a "24-2" wheel.  The pickups and plate are the same as a late model FJ. 

If you do get it going on the TCI you can set the timing 15 degrees retarded.  Then fill the ignition table with 15 anywhere you want the stock curve, and then increase or decrease the value by the amount you want to change from the stock FJ curve. 

There is probably a 4 cylinder coil pack that would work well too - maybe dodge neon or vw?  If you find a stock one the turbo guys are using successfully it would be cheaper than the LSx coils and may be easier to find space for.  There are probably dual spark packs with just two coils in the pack already set up for wasted spark. 

- Chris
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on December 28, 2015, 11:36:52 AM
Yea you got it. We are on the same page I'm just having a hard time finding what the signal to the tci is. It would be beautiful if it could just interpret the 5v from the microsquirt.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on December 28, 2015, 03:17:17 PM
I have looked the internet up and down and can't find a 24-2 ignition rotor for xjr. I think one of us may be confused. I think gsxr1300 is 24-2.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on December 29, 2015, 02:54:45 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on December 28, 2015, 03:17:17 PM
I have looked the internet up and down and can't find a 24-2 ignition rotor for xjr. I think one of us may be confused. I think gsxr1300 is 24-2.

I can't find a picture o the timing plate online either.  If you download this XJR manual ( http://www.xjr.se/Links-filer/Servicemanualer/5WM-28197-E0 (http://www.xjr.se/Links-filer/Servicemanualer/5WM-28197-E0)[1].pdf )  - page 3-4 has a good drawing of what it looks like.  As far as I know, 2007 was the first year of the fuel injected XJR1300.   The timing plate is 24-2 configuration.  I originally tried a 24-1 wheel I adapted to the FJ crank and ignition pickup.  It worked, but would sometimes have synch problems - both while starting and occasionally while running.   Randy sourced the XJR rotor for me and it's been solid since then.   When I went from the microsquirt-module based plug & play ECU for a Hayabusa to the microsquirt I did have to add a resistor across the pickup wires to get a good signal.

Hope that helps -- I'd recommend getting with Randy for the XJR ignition rotor / timing plate.   
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on December 29, 2015, 10:11:59 PM
Thanks for insight. I was able to find a pic of the xjr trigger wheel but it was on a random European oem parts website. Happen to have any measurements on it by chance? I'm thinking of going with a universal 36-1 or similar but the smallest I find is 4 inch.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on December 30, 2015, 12:06:33 AM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on December 29, 2015, 10:11:59 PM
Thanks for insight. I was able to find a pic of the xjr trigger wheel but it was on a random European oem parts website. Happen to have any measurements on it by chance? I'm thinking of going with a universal 36-1 or similar but the smallest I find is 4 inch.

If you don't want to go with the XJR trigger wheel - I started with a 24-1 from a ZX636.  You have to open up the center hole to fit the FJ crank.  Then you have to drill a small hole for the locating pin.  The pickup has to moved outboard a few mm to clear the trigger wheel - which in turn requires the cover to be notched to clear the pickup.  While the 24-1 configuration worked, I later filed off a second tooth to make a 24-2.  That gave a more consistent signal. 
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: racerrad8 on January 03, 2016, 06:18:54 PM
Quote from: fj1289 on December 29, 2015, 02:54:45 PM
Randy sourced the XJR rotor for me and it's been solid since then.

Hope that helps -- I'd recommend getting with Randy for the XJR ignition rotor / timing plate.   

I will get you a photo of the XJR EFI rotor and P/U coil this week, I have to did my EFI bike out of the corner to get a photo.

I will have more of the rotors hopefully by late January or February. I believe I have plenty of P/U coils.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on January 17, 2016, 06:25:29 PM
I ordered a bosch 044 fuel pump, iat sensor, coolant temp sensor, injector pigtails, and a gm 3 bar map sensor. Only thing left to do is finish weld the intake plenum and get the microsquirt. Oh and I forgot I need to figure out a fuel return to the tank. I think I might try an do a return line to the gas cap not sure yet.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Arnie on January 17, 2016, 08:34:37 PM
Would it be reasonable to use the "overfill" hose connection as your return?
Maybe put a NO solenoid valve inline to still allow it to function as an overfill when ignition is OFF and have the valve close when the ign is ON.
Upon further reflection, it wouldn't work unless you re-routed the pipe from the cap area to the tank or at least put a hole into the tube internal to the tank for the returned fuel to flow into the tank.

Arnie

Quote from: jnimbostratus on January 17, 2016, 06:25:29 PM
I ordered a bosch 044 fuel pump, iat sensor, coolant temp sensor, injector pigtails, and a gm 3 bar map sensor. Only thing left to do is finish weld the intake plenum and get the microsquirt. Oh and I forgot I need to figure out a fuel return to the tank. I think I might try an do a return line to the gas cap not sure yet.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Pat Conlon on January 17, 2016, 09:09:16 PM
When he experimented with EFI Steve Conklin welded a fitting on the bottom of his tank for the return line.

RPM's EFI has a clever fuel return design where the return line does not go to the tank. If my memory serves, the return line goes back to the fuel filter housing, so no tank modification is needed.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on January 23, 2016, 02:13:48 PM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on January 17, 2016, 09:09:16 PM
When he experimented with EFI Steve Conklin welded a fitting on the bottom of his tank for the return line.

RPM's EFI has a clever fuel return design where the return line does not go to the tank. If my memory serves, the return line goes back to the fuel filter housing, so no tank modification is needed.

I chose to ditch the fuel gauge and fabricated a small square panel with a return fitting to bolt in its place.

Also, I found I needed a surge tank (old 9 oz CO2 bottle) to keep the high pressure pump from sucking air - especially with the tank less than half full.  The fuel filter housing on Randy's setup serves the same purpose.  The return line from the fuel pressure regulator still goes to the surge tank, but I've also added a tank return line from the top of the surge bottle to make sure I didn't get any trapped air in the surge tank. 

Chris
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: giantkiller on January 23, 2016, 06:44:29 PM
That I would like to see pictures of.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on January 23, 2016, 10:35:54 PM
I totally forgot I already made a fuel gauge block off plate I will just modify that for a return line. I sure hope I don't end up needing a surge tank because my bike literally has no room for anything. Its going to be a chore just to get the fuel pump to mount, it's twice the size of the low pressure pump I was using. Plus I need to mount the microsquirt somewhere. On a positive note I read the entire mega manuel again and my understanding is the logic level output signal is equivalent to the output of the pickup so I should be able to piggyback the stock tci unit to run stock timing curve with a boost retard. Initially I will be running just fuel. Finally ordered the microsquirt today so updates are sure to come in the next few weeks. Thanks to all the people that have provided feedback to help me get this thing along.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on January 27, 2016, 10:43:34 AM
Quote from: giantkiller on January 23, 2016, 06:44:29 PM
That I would like to see pictures of.

Pics of the 4.5 oz CO2 bottle being used as a surge tank.

Cut off valve flush with top of bottle.  then drilled and tapped for a 90 degree fitting.  Very short hose directly to the MSD high pressure pump. 

(http://fjowners.com/gallery/9/171_27_01_16_7_54_30.jpeg)

Top view showing the tank return line on top and two connections on the side - one return from the fuel pressure regulator; the other is the feed from the petcock. 

(http://fjowners.com/gallery/9/171_27_01_16_7_55_28.jpeg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: racerrad8 on February 03, 2016, 04:40:52 PM
Quote from: racerrad8 on January 03, 2016, 06:18:54 PM
Quote from: fj1289 on December 29, 2015, 02:54:45 PM
Randy sourced the XJR rotor for me and it's been solid since then.

Hope that helps -- I'd recommend getting with Randy for the XJR ignition rotor / timing plate.    

I will get you a photo of the XJR EFI rotor and P/U coil this week, I have to did my EFI bike out of the corner to get a photo.

I will have more of the rotors hopefully by late January or February. I believe I have plenty of P/U coils.

Randy - RPM

The receipt of the rotors today reminded me I never took a photo of it on my bike. With this rotor you use the XJR pick-up coil assy.


Randy - RPM
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 04, 2016, 07:18:26 PM
Thanks Randy for now I am trying to get it running with stock rotor and pickups to the microsquirt and piggyback the stock tci. Just trying to figure out what wire go's where from the pickups to the microsquirt.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 08, 2016, 07:16:47 PM
http://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t50.2886-16/12698071_179862332380582_13171007_n.mp4 (http://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t50.2886-16/12698071_179862332380582_13171007_n.mp4)

Update time. She Fired up first try, but would turn off after a few seconds but I literally only had the map sensor hooked up. So a few days after I finished welding the manifold together with the iat bung and hooked my wideband up then after screwing with the tps sensor calibration since this was not hooked up yet either and tweaking the coldstart settings cuz no temp sensor hooked up either I was able to get a smooth idle and clean revs out of it. I had no interest in doing anything further till all the sensors are in place and the new injectors are installed. A set of 680cc came in the mail today. Hope to be test driving in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Arnie on February 08, 2016, 08:07:54 PM
Its ALIVE  :yahoo:


:gamer:    :gamer:     :gamer:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on February 09, 2016, 11:56:15 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on December 22, 2015, 07:38:35 PM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xtf1/t51.2885-15/e35/11351581_649899818485093_327683083_n.jpg)

(https://scontent-dfw1-1.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xft1/t51.2885-15/e35/12224409_422880241241562_1453948377_n.jpg)

(https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xat1/t51.2885-15/e35/12237135_514352398739707_637768671_n.jpg)

Where did you end up putting theTB?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 10, 2016, 05:28:07 PM
I used the 4 cbr1000rr TBs post manifold instead of one large TB pre manifold
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on February 11, 2016, 02:24:22 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on February 10, 2016, 05:28:07 PM
I used the 4 cbr1000rr TBs post manifold instead of one large TB pre manifold

That should've been obvious!

Cant wait to see this one running in anger again!
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 14, 2016, 03:51:38 PM
Got it running pretty good but my wideband finally stoped working completely so no more tuning till it gets replaced then I will give the ve analyze live to get it smoothed out. On a very rough sloppy tune it already revs much faster and crisper then it ever did with carbs.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on February 14, 2016, 06:14:49 PM
Awesome!   :good2:

I had issues with VE Analyze Live -- mostly due to my outdated laptops not having enough computing power -- I'd usually end up with a blue screen of death.   What I did find very helpful was datalogging and after the ride running it thru VE Analyze.   "Easy" setting for only one or two rides -- then "Hard" or "Very Hard"  for subsequent tuning.   And always try to smooth out your table - shouldn't have large peaks or valleys.   That is where ANY automatic tuning algorithm (not just Tuner Studio and mega/microsquirt) fails -- the peaks and valleys tend to create errors in adjoining cells that only serves to make the peaks and valleys worse. 

I also found that rather than trying to "hit the whole table" -- you get better results by trying to focus on a couple "points" to get a very good high-confidence solution for those.  For example, try to ride up and down several Billy sections of road holding 3000 RPM in various gears.   This should help you really nail down good values at that speed for various loads.  Loads you dont get can be extrapolated with a good degree of confidence and safety.   Next time out try 5000 RPM, etc.  This will get you to a good VE table a lot quicker than doing a bunch of "dynamic" riding all over the table each time out.   

These two things can make street tuning a VE table a 2 or 3 day affair vice a weeks long ordeal chasing your tail.....DAMHIK!
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on February 14, 2016, 08:23:08 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on February 14, 2016, 03:51:38 PM
Got it running pretty good but my wideband finally stoped working completely so no more tuning till it gets replaced then I will give the ve analyze live to get it smoothed out. On a very rough sloppy tune it already revs much faster and crisper then it ever did with carbs.

Which wideband are you using?  Is it the controller?  Or just the sensor that took a dump?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 14, 2016, 08:46:37 PM
It's the controller but I think I'm due for a new sensor also. It was the cheapest one I could find at the time apsx d2 I knew it wouldn't last when I bought it but it served it's purpose to dial in the carbs now it's time for a new setup. I think I'm going to get another cheap one for temporary then put it on my fzr600quad after I buy a good one.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 17, 2016, 07:57:11 PM
Most recent results from a few days ago. Can hear that turbo spinning pretty good with no load on it. Probably cuz it's still pig rich.



http://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t50.2886-16/12730854_1663707847227472_386891874_n.mp4 (http://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t50.2886-16/12730854_1663707847227472_386891874_n.mp4)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 20, 2016, 07:35:49 PM
Progress that will please you

https://www.instagram.com/p/BCBoaqjEFAa/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BCBoaqjEFAa/)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 28, 2016, 07:49:45 PM
I have put some miles on the bike datalogging and tuning and I honestly never expected such dramatic increase in performance at the same boost. I thought this bike was powerful before but now it really is just nutty even with a sloppy tune. I'm having some idle and light cruise issues I havnt been able to tune out so I broke down and ordered a trigger wheel from a zx6 off eBay.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on February 29, 2016, 09:02:37 AM
awesome!  Good to hear the turbo really likes the FI.  Once you get the ignition controlled with the microsquirt you'll be able to add in some timing off boost (assuming you have the vacuum advance disconnected now) and have it more responsive off boost and possibly come into boost sooner. 
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on March 07, 2016, 10:42:36 PM
Saturday I got the 24-1 wheel fitted along with the Kawasaki sensor to match. Tach signal in tuner studio during cranking is much more stable now. Have 4 ls2 coils coming in the mail should be up and running again this upcoming weekend.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on March 08, 2016, 10:03:58 AM
Sweet!  You will really like the amount of control this gives you without "fighting" some other aspect of the ignition system. 

Also for the Launch mode - you can use the soft rev limit settings for anti-lag.

Where do you plan to mount the coils?  I think Randy mounted them on a plate attached to the rear tank mount -- there is a surprising amount of room there under the rear of the tank.  I made a mount and put them in the same general area as the stock coils - and that lets me use the stock suppression wires that came with the coils.  The pics of the mounts may be on my old phone - can't find them now.

Chris

Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on March 08, 2016, 06:54:18 PM
There may be alot of room in that location on most fjs but mine is super crammed lol. My battery sits directly below the rest tank mount along with my starter solenoid key fuel pump and about 30 other things. I will prob try to mount them where you did. I am looking forward to the level of control for off boost performance and spooling purposes as well as onboost detnation control but I have to admit I will miss the ability to adjust my lower rpm limit 2 step with the handlebar mounted rotary dial. But I have a plan to remedy that.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on March 08, 2016, 10:12:47 PM
Found the pic:

(http://fjowners.com/gallery/9/171_02_08_15_10_26_24.jpeg)

Took quite a bit of fitting to make sure I could disconnect each coil without having to unbolt it and making sure the factory lead would reach the plug.  [Now I think about it -- maybe not so important to be able to unplug the coils without unbolting them first.]  I also kept the mounting strip solid and spaced the coils off of it rather than notching the mounting strip. 



Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on March 12, 2016, 08:25:24 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BC3-yS1EFCH/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BC3-yS1EFCH/)

Running on the ls2 coils microsquirt now controlling fuel and ignition. Time to get everything cleaned up and tucked away and throw another 10 pounds of boost at it.

Big shout out to fj1289 for all the help getting the ignition side of the megasquirt sorted and providing me his tune file to use as a base. Good man.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Bones on March 13, 2016, 01:56:21 AM
Well, at least you know your rev limiter works. Sounds great, love the turbo whistle.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on March 13, 2016, 10:19:45 AM
Yea I had the hard limit set to 8500 rpm in that video just making sure it's working properly.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on March 14, 2016, 11:56:32 AM
Sounds good!  Thought you the 2-step set up - didn't realize it was the rev limiter! 

Have you started mapping for boost?

Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on March 14, 2016, 04:35:49 PM
Yea my fuel map in boost is pretty good at the moment. I come into boost around 12.3 afr and maintains 11.5-11.8 afr through boost peaking at 10 psi. That was on the stock ignition with the sensor plate retarded about 8 degrees. Made sick power like that. sence then I took your timing table and modified it for boost, over 100kpa I'm pulling about 1.1 degree per psi. Havnt ridden it like this yet tho. I'm going to tear everything back apart and get everything cleaned up and tucked before riding it again. I mounted the coils near the stock location still attached to the truck bracket, fit snuggly slightly offset to one side for plug wire to valve cover clearance.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on April 03, 2016, 04:12:02 PM
Been having some problems with fuel system where pressure just drops real low so times all the way to 0. I think a surge tank would be the answer but I literally have no room for one so I think I may try a small online low pressure pump an see if that helps.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on April 03, 2016, 08:56:47 PM
That was some of the same issues I had when I'd get below a half tank or so.    For a while I went with a low pressure pump to the surgery tank and then to the high pressure pump.   Now I'm just running gravity feed to the surge tank before the high pressure pump and I haven't had any issues.

For carbs the float bowls act like surge tanks for the times the fuel pickup is uncovered momentarily.   With the high pressure pump, it loses pressure like you've experienced.  You need some kind of a reservoir of fuel to feed the high pressure pump even if there is a momentary loss of fuel feed.  I don't think a low pressure pump inliine will help -- but a surge tank not much bigger than the low pressure pump just may. 

Get creative for the surge "tank".   Replace a section of line going to the pump with a piece of larger diameter line or tubing or pipe to add some volume.   Reposition the high pressure pump under the swingarm and run large diameter hose to it.  Then plumb your FPR return to the " top" of the larger feed hose.   Or put a small tank where the pump is now and then continue down to under the swingarm.  

Make sure you get a consistent fuel supply to the pump -- you'll be amazed how quickly you will burn one out by sucking air on occasion - DAMHIK!
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on April 04, 2016, 10:33:08 AM
Yes I was thinking more about it and I think I'm just going to try a large clear inline filter so I can see what's happening also. Just gravity feed that and t the return line from the regulator to before the fuel filter for some additional volume
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on April 08, 2016, 01:28:28 PM
So I went ahead and revamped my fuel system replaced my slick anodized blue earls performance fuel filter with a big ol' clear one from AutoZone and t'd the regulator return line to the pump feed line right before the filter and it seemed to help but only way to tell was to test ride.. but it was raining.. so I test drove it anyway. 4th gear about 45-50mph roll into throttle and the bike just dogtailed down the road while making all kinds of beautiful sounds. Then I dried out and I went back out and I couldn't be happier with the results
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on April 12, 2016, 06:22:55 PM
I know words are just words so here is some action from the day I was finally satisfied with the performance of my bike. More satisfying videos will come as soon as I can get somone to film me from a car.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BEHcyrzkFPr/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BEHcyrzkFPr/)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BEHc60DEFP9/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BEHc60DEFP9/)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: cclase on April 12, 2016, 06:48:59 PM
That's cool!  It's been awesome to follow your progress on this build and to see you get it out for a ride!  Great job dude!

Chris
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on April 18, 2016, 08:17:55 PM
Data log shows acceleration at 1.408gs when she spools in third at about 50 mph and an estimated hp of 320. I think this calculation may be a bit optimistic and skewed considering I guessed total wheight of me and bike at 800 pounds. Rode it for about 3 hours Saturday and had to order new tires when I got home. So that's the good news. The bad news.. about 3/4 of a mile from home the throttle bodies blew out of thier boots so Sunday I tore the bike apart in the drivway with my backpack tools and remounted the throttle bodies then took it down the rode and they popped off again as soon as the turbo spooled so now I'm going to fab up some new manifolds on the motor side and weld a nice lip on all 4 of them to get a good grip with the couplers.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on April 18, 2016, 10:26:19 PM
Can you make some brackets from the allen heads that bolt the boots to the head to somewhere on the throttle bodies?  Like the Busa boys do?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on April 29, 2016, 08:35:11 PM
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/9/1579_29_04_16_7_31_07.jpeg)

One of the 4 manifolds all welded up. After this picture I cut 1 inch off the end of each. Test fit them today, and it appears they are the ticket.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 03, 2016, 10:08:28 PM
Got her back together and seems to be running the best she ever has so I decided to abuse the rear tire. Have a brand new set of 'shinko 003 stealth' tires ready to mount. So here's a burn out in third gear at 8 psi. Spool is pretty  audible.

http://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t50.2886-16/13158292_491804074338921_1133367350_n.mp4 (http://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t50.2886-16/13158292_491804074338921_1133367350_n.mp4)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 07, 2016, 04:20:36 PM
Hung the bike from engine hoist while I got the new tires mounted

(https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/13117956_990141724415835_959175356_n.jpg)

(https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/13151021_1134179739965623_1390486848_n.jpg)

(https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/13183404_1695179547399009_745826310_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 11, 2016, 06:59:41 PM
So after i put the tires on I also redid all my vacuum lines and added the manual boost controller set to a very low setting. Then when the rain finally stopped I forgot I put it on and hit 16.5 pounds of boost on my way home. I thought the increase in power was so to the new manifolds but i had a doubt it made that much difference then when I got home and saw the 16.5 psi on the datalog it made sense. Then today after work at a gas station I noticed my valve cover spraying oil and found one of the bolts has backed out almost all the way so I pulled out a wrench to tighten it at the gas pump and it snapped so bikes down again till I can perform surgery.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Pat Conlon on May 11, 2016, 07:46:49 PM
With so much boost (and resulting blowby) it's no wonder your valve cover lost its seal. It will happen again. You are going to have to find a way to relieve your higher crankcase pressures. I suspect the oem crankcase vent won't cut it (never designed to relieve that much pressure), unless you are thinking about a vacuum pump or running a vent line into the compressor intake (bad idea: you will get oil ingested in the compressor).

Have you thought about adding a top end vent?
Kinda tricky, there's a lot of oil splashing around up there, easy to blow your oil out along with the gasses. Some type of oil baffle or separator would be needed with a drain back to your crankcase or you could combine that top end vent with your crankcase vent and run it into a catch can and drain that back to the crankcase..
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on May 12, 2016, 12:34:10 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on May 03, 2016, 10:08:28 PM
Got her back together and seems to be running the best she ever has so I decided to abuse the rear tire. Have a brand new set of 'shinko 003 stealth' tires ready to mount. So here's a burn out in third gear at 8 psi. Spool is pretty  audible.

http://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t50.2886-16/13158292_491804074338921_1133367350_n.mp4 (http://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t50.2886-16/13158292_491804074338921_1133367350_n.mp4)

I think this is hands down the best street-fightered FJ out there -- built and used in the real street fighter fashion -- not the pretty polished show bikes they have become once theses outcasts became popular

Good on ya James!
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 12, 2016, 06:59:24 PM
Effin A 1289 you get it lol i appreciate your appreciation. And yea pat I think I'm going to end up venting the valve cover to a catch can that's also tied into the crank case. The stock crank vent by size should be more than enough especially since I decided to keep it at 8 psi till I have another motor in my hands that I can build to take more boost. I think the bolt backing out was not necessarily boost related because it has happens to me before I had the turbo but it is possible. guess it's time to thread lock them.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 14, 2016, 11:22:46 PM
Got everythingb sorted and been working on my fuel table use ve anylize feature in megalog viewer still running real rich but I purposly started to tuning process on the rich side. Here's a 3rd-4th gear pull from 45-110 mph.


http://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t50.2886-16/13247436_1772151359681161_491929008_n.mp4 (http://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t50.2886-16/13247436_1772151359681161_491929008_n.mp4)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 19, 2016, 09:17:16 PM
I discovered some exhaust leaking at the collector on the v&h headers and I imagine this is hurting spool time and the overall efficiency of my setup so I think it's time to build a full custom exhaust to the turbo. Anyone know what size the primary tubes are on the Vance an hines 4-1 headers? If No one knows I will just measure but I am trying to avoid removing the exhaust wrap until I'm ready to actually do somthing so if I can get a pipe diameter I can order some mandrel bends. I'm hoping to not only make the exhaust more efficient and air tight but also regain some lean angle as right now my "up pipe" to the turbo hits the ground if I try to corner to the right with any sort aggression at all.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: groome on May 28, 2016, 09:29:49 AM
the more i watch this thread the more i fall in love with that bike. awesome build  :good2:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on September 28, 2016, 04:38:13 PM
Well. Since my last post a put alot of very fun mileson the bike and then a few weeks ago cylinder 1 rings let go i believe, unfortunately a few weeks before that my father got sick and we had to close our shop so no place to tear her apart. Fortunatly i am under contract to buy a house that has a suitable shop on property so i can assure a rebuild in the relatively near future.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Mark Olson on September 28, 2016, 09:40:39 PM
there ya go, always gotta have a place to wrench on the FJ. :dance:
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on October 06, 2016, 08:55:52 PM
I have been looking at these big bore kits on ebay they come pre sleeved and everything ready to assemble i eas told the biggest i could go on my 1100 without crankcase cleanup was 1197. If im going bigger i want much bigger. Is the case modification a precision operation or simply removing material? I havnt had my cases open in a few years now and im struggling to envision it. In a perfect world i would see undameged cylinder bores when i pull it apart and just buy a set of stock bore low compression pistons and just throw more boost at it but all the research i have done could not find such a thing so im considering big bore slightly bumped comp and keep the boost under 12psi. I dont know fellas give me your thoughts, help me remotivate my passion for this bike.

Edit: mybad i reread the email the largest kit without case mod is 1297. i think i may be able to live with a 1300turbo.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: aviationfred on October 06, 2016, 09:19:34 PM
I have installed the 1297cc Andrews Motorsports big bore kit. It is truly a drop in kit. I run 91 octane pump gas with no problems and no noticeable increase in engine heat. I have over 7500 miles on the pistons and it runs great.

As far as adding a turbo to it, I would give Andrews Motorsports a call and talk to Curt Andrews about the specifics.

Fred
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on October 06, 2016, 09:46:11 PM
How was the performance increase with that kit? I emailed andrews through ebay asking if low comprrssion was available they responded saying they could mill down the pistons that come with the kit, but if your telling me you are having no additional heat im not to concerned especially considering the size intercooler i am running and the abbility to retard timing under boost with the mrgasquirt.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: aviationfred on October 06, 2016, 10:08:00 PM
My engine was consuming 1 quart in 400 miles and was still able to lift the front wheel in a 1st gear roll on using 18/38 gearing. With the 1300 pistons, I can get the front wheel off the ground in 3rd.


Fred
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on October 07, 2016, 10:49:41 AM
Which  cylinder blocks is Andrews using for those kits?  For you turbo I think I'd want the Siamese XFR block with the thickest steel sleeves you could find.    Along with XJR rods.  Build it STRONG and let it eat!
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: aviationfred on October 07, 2016, 11:45:06 AM
To the best of my knowledge, the blocks that are used in the 1195, 1250, and 1297 kits are re-sleeved FJ blocks.

Fred
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: giantkiller on October 07, 2016, 12:58:17 PM
1289 was that a typo.xfr? Mine is supposed to be an xjr cylinder.From Hank Scott in my 1350.
I do have an APE block, and a Wisco block. Both are billet aluminum.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on October 07, 2016, 04:10:11 PM
Quote from: giantkiller on October 07, 2016, 12:58:17 PM
1289 was that a typo.xfr? Mine is supposed to be an xjr cylinder.From Hank Scott in my 1350.
I do have an APE block, and a Wisco block. Both are billet aluminum.


Yes - should have been XJR block!  For the turbo project I'd think the siamesed block would be better than the FJ blocks - just more meat to help hold everything in shape better at higher stress levels. 

I have no idea who manufactured the big block I have.  The "cooling fins" appear to be mostly cosmetic -- but I'm sure the block is strong as hell!  I've done some street riding on it in the past (when it was only 83 mm bore) but not since putting the custom CP pistons in it.  Some of the old Kawi and Suzi big blocks actually looked pretty good for street use as well as the drag strip.  Can you post up pics of your big blocks?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on October 07, 2016, 04:41:18 PM
As much as i dont want to im thinking about abandoning this bike. Im looking at a lot of money in parts between the trans and motor and i could build a whole nother project with the turbo and fuel system i have on the fj now. I really love this bike tho, its truly one of a kind now and it has taught me alot but i just dont know anymore. I keep thinking about buying a used engine but how long till that one folds under pressure. Anyone have a old race cut trans for sale? Or a big bore block? I was under the impression the stock bottom was up to the task, mostly just from the physical observation of the girth. Id also luke to do some head work so the $$$$ just keeps stacking.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: giantkiller on October 08, 2016, 11:09:35 PM
Quote from: fj1289 on October 07, 2016, 04:10:11 PM
Quote from: giantkiller on October 07, 2016, 12:58:17 PM
1289 was that a typo.xfr? Mine is supposed to be an xjr cylinder.From Hank Scott in my 1350.
I do have an APE block, and a Wisco block. Both are billet aluminum.


Yes - should have been XJR block!  For the turbo project I'd think the siamesed block would be better than the FJ blocks - just more meat to help hold everything in shape better at higher stress levels.  

I have no idea who manufactured the big block I have.  The "cooling fins" appear to be mostly cosmetic -- but I'm sure the block is strong as hell!  I've done some street riding on it in the past (when it was only 83 mm bore) but not since putting the custom CP pistons in it.  Some of the old Kawi and Suzi big blocks actually looked pretty good for street use as well as the drag strip.  Can you post up pics of your big blocks?
I have them in storage.  Trying to get my house ready to sell. So I can build my shop/house.
Anyway the Wisco block is a 1380. The APE block is 1450. Cycle world had a small write up of the APE block. Look up fj 1450. The Wisco actually has Wisco machined into the side of the block. I got them off eBay. Really cheap. there is a guy who buys up old drag bikes and parts them out. I got both with the pistons for less than $250 on 2 different auctions. Got the cases and all the miscellaneous parts for just over $100. Both reinforced. One with epoxy. The other was weld build up. But Randy said that the welded one was probably not true. Most likely warped from the welding. Some day In the future I'll have them built.
I found a picture of one on the net but I think it's from a company in the UK.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on October 18, 2016, 05:58:00 PM
Want to sell one of them big blocks?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Pat Conlon on October 18, 2016, 07:44:25 PM
As far as I know, the largest piston fitted in an XJR block is a 84mm Ross piston displacing 1412cc available from Curt Andrews
http://andrewsmotorsports.mybigcommerce.com/yamaha-fj-fj1100-fj1200-xjr1300-1412cc-84mm-ross-piston-cylinder-kit/ (http://andrewsmotorsports.mybigcommerce.com/yamaha-fj-fj1100-fj1200-xjr1300-1412cc-84mm-ross-piston-cylinder-kit/)

For street use I would stay with the sleeved XJR block for better cooling (deeper fins)
Back in the '90's I knew a guy who had the APE 1450 billet block and while fine on the drag strip, he cooked the engine running it on the street (even running VP fuel)

I am very happy with my 83mm 1380 block (XJR) from Curt Andrews. Randy built the engine and it hauls ass.
What I have discovered is that the Ross pistons are a much better choice for a street bike than the Hank Scott Pro lite Pistons I replaced.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: giantkiller on October 18, 2016, 09:05:55 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on October 18, 2016, 05:58:00 PM
Want to sell one of them big blocks?
I think I'll hang onto them. I'm going to start with the stock 87 motor with the turbo. Till It doesn't get exciting. Anymore. Then put the 1450 on the turbo motor. Thought I'd use the Wisco block For a street fighter eventually. Just have everything on hold until I get my shop house built.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 08, 2016, 06:31:51 PM
Out of curiosity and the nature of how my mind works. Are their any pistons interchangable with these fj series of motor and any other engines?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on November 08, 2016, 07:16:31 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on November 08, 2016, 06:31:51 PM
Out of curiosity and the nature of how my mind works. Are their any pistons interchangable with these fj series of motor and any other engines?

I've done a little research on this - mostly found info about using busa pistons in GS engines.  It is easy enough to find piston pin diameters to see may be possible.  But finding the pin height to determine what may fit the cylinder height is problematic.  I'd say research as much as you can, find a couple that are worth trying, and try to eBay some and see how it goes.  I'm about 50% with these types of "science experiments" for my FJ.  I still want to see if an oil cooled GSXR head can be swapped in ...
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 09, 2016, 04:48:41 PM
What is the benefit of a gsxr head? Any specific years?  Maybe after i get my parts from you i will ebay a gsxr head. My buddy has a chopper with a katana motor in it and i believe the oil burner gsxr heads are a kat upgrade so i could prob offload it to him if need be
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on November 09, 2016, 09:26:27 PM
As far as I know, the oil cooled GSXR head has the best ports for any air cooled engine and with the cam chain in the center.   Plus there is still a good number of shops and tuners that still know how to make large improvements to them.   I have no idea if it could be made to work on an FJ or not.  First is if the bore centers are close enough, how close are the cylinder studs, and what length the can chain will need be?  On some of the Suzuki GS motors they swap these heads on they have to move the cylinder stud locations in the head. 
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 16, 2016, 06:57:35 PM
Well everything should be coming to a close soon then i can get in the new shop and start my winterbuild. I am starting to really go crazy not having a shop. So i put together my winter rebuild objective list.

1450 kit.

port/polish head

Upgrade valve springs

Adjustable cam gears

Manual camchain tensioner

Upgraded cylinder studs

Redesign exhaust system for better flow and ground clearance

External waste gate

Mandrel bent and welded intercooler pipes

undercut tranny.

Upgrade/oversize oilcooler w/efans

Properly setup some sort of pcv w/catch can

E85 (gas station down road from new house has e85 pump)

Coil spring clutch conversion

Those are the definate plans.



Here are the ones being considered but not committed to getting done this winter. Btw i welcome thoughts on any of this

Usd forks

Repaint everything

Upgrade swingarm (singlesided strong enough for 400hp+ ?)

Electronic waste gate

Upgrade from micro to megasquirt to incorporate traction control

A/r .48 exhaust housing on turbo

Ditch the itbs and build all new plenum to use single tb.

Upgrade connecting rods.



Im sure im forgetting a number of things. I just cant wait to get back at it an get my momentum going. Once i get back into it the updates will be plentiful and i will be eagerly awaiting feedback
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: racerrad8 on November 16, 2016, 07:27:10 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on November 16, 2016, 06:57:35 PM


Manual camchain tensioner - WHY

Upgraded cylinder studs - WHY

Upgrade connecting rods - Here is the stronger Yamaha 1250 Connecting Rod (https://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Engine%3A1250Rod).

Just my opinion, but I think I have a pretty good track record building fast & durable engines. FJ Land speed racer (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=14280.0)

The manual chain tensioner is not needed, the stock tensioner works perfectly. And you never have to worry about adjusting it...ever.

The horror stories of upgrades studs include: frequent breakage of the stud, pulled threads from the case, broken cases and severely distorted heads at the bolt holes.

Randy - RPM

Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Pat Conlon on November 16, 2016, 07:56:03 PM
Randy, I know XJR rods are good, but would they be good enough for a turbo motor?
Wouldn't Carrillo A beams or H beams be stronger?

Re: Barnett coil spring conversion, the stock kit comes with the 75 lb gold color standard springs which will be too light for your application.
(http://rpmracingca.com/prodimages/large/Clutch%20BarnettPP-2.jpg)

At least get the 82 lb green springs:
(http://rpmracingca.com/prodimages/large/Clutch%20SpringHD-1.jpg)
http://rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Clutch%3ASpringHD (http://rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Clutch%3ASpringHD)

The greenies are a tad shorter so you will need to shim them.

If that does not hold her....Barnett also makes red 90 lb springs you can always move up to....
I suggest a 14mm clutch m/c for these heavy springs. I have the greens on my 1380 and they hold just fine.

Re: 1450 block, make sure you have good cooling fins!
APE made a 1450 Gorilla billet block which was fine for drag racing, not so good (at all) on the street.
Curt Andrews makes a 1412cc kit using a sleeved XJR block which should have good cooling.
http://andrewsmotorsports.mybigcommerce.com/yamaha-fj-fj1100-fj1200-xjr1300-1412cc-84mm-ross-piston-cylinder-kit/ (http://andrewsmotorsports.mybigcommerce.com/yamaha-fj-fj1100-fj1200-xjr1300-1412cc-84mm-ross-piston-cylinder-kit/)
At 12:1 compression you will need to cut those 84mm piston domes down to lower your compression even with using E85 fuel

Cheers
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 16, 2016, 08:28:59 PM
Nice. Some good upfront info. So randy i should stay with factory studs? The tensioner i just assumed to replace cuz i have had one fail on a cbr600f2 (common problem) and had one come failed on the fzr600 motor i put in my atv. If you say its a good piece then great, money well saved. And as for clutch springs i will most likely go sever duty and use a stock larger bore master cylinder from another bike (ebay). Appreciate the input fellas.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Pat Conlon on November 16, 2016, 09:16:04 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on November 16, 2016, 08:28:59 PM
....and use a stock larger bore master cylinder from another bike (ebay).

Negative, you are going the wrong way.
With stiffer clutch springs you want a m/c with a smaller bore for an easier squeeze at the lever.
The stock FJ clutch m/c is 16mm or 5/8" dia. So you want a smaller 14mm bore m/c for those greenies.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 16, 2016, 09:37:53 PM
Haha yes thanks pat not thinking clearly. My brain had it right but my fingers cant keep up. I was even thinking to myself "do i still have that nissin 14mm master from that cbr?"
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: aviationfred on November 17, 2016, 08:05:03 AM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on November 16, 2016, 09:37:53 PM
Haha yes thanks pat not thinking clearly. My brain had it right but my fingers cant keep up. I was even thinking to myself "do i still have that nissin 14mm master from that cbr?"

The Nissin masters from the Honda's work great. I have ran masters from a VFR800 and an RC51 for awhile now. I have the coil spring conversion with the 82lb greenies. No increase in lever pull noticed.


Fred
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: racerrad8 on November 17, 2016, 10:21:47 AM
Quote from: Pat Conlon on November 16, 2016, 07:56:03 PM
Randy, I know XJR rods are good, but would they be good enough for a turbo motor?
Wouldn't Carrillo A beams or H beams be stronger?

Re: Barnett coil spring conversion (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Clutch%3ABarnettPP), the stock kit comes with the 75 lb gold color standard springs which will be too light for your application.
(http://rpmracingca.com/prodimages/large/Clutch%20BarnettPP-2.jpg)

At least get the 82 lb green springs:
(http://rpmracingca.com/prodimages/large/Clutch%20SpringHD-1.jpg)
http://rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Clutch%3ASpringHD (http://rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=Clutch%3ASpringHD)

The greenies are a tad shorter so you will need to shim them.

I would use the XJR without any concerns. I was actually thinking of switch over Chris' motor to them when the time comes.

As far as the clutch springs, The green is shorter but they do not need to be shimmed. If you shim them you are increasing the spring pressure. I have never shimmed any that I have installed into peoples race cars.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on November 17, 2016, 11:03:22 AM
Two other options for your clutch - double up the stock springs - that's what the guys did for the turbo/nitrous FJ in the first Sport Rider UFO shootout.  Randy suggested trying three! if we needed for the land speed bike.  I opted for the other option - a single stage lockup.  I think you can still get the pressure plate from Orient Express.  They do not have the arms or pins though.  you may be able to source those separately thru MRE or Hays Machine or raid them from a used lockup for another bike.  The lockup will need to be used with the coil spring conversion.  And you will want to have steel buttons installed in the aluminum pressure plate to cut down on the wear - the steel arms will dig into the aluminum pressure plate over time.

Sounds like fun!
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 17, 2016, 05:59:12 PM
Right now im running doubled diaphragm clutch spring. It dont slip with my current setup but with the extra cubes and port work and most likley upped compression who knows what the clutch will do.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on November 21, 2016, 03:33:24 PM
Well, nix the idea of a cylinder head swap - per the expert on these swaps, the cylinder spacing for the oil cooled GSXR is all wrong.  
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on November 21, 2016, 07:52:39 PM
Are there any swaps the fj motor will accept?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on November 22, 2016, 08:36:16 AM
I don't know of any and can't think of any good canidates.  I'm thinking you'd need to keep it air cooled, want something that is reasonably available and still has good support base for the types of.mods you would be looking for and is a better starting point than the FJ head.   At this point I think its better to stick with the FJ head -- but the wheels are always turning -- even if 90% of what I come up with isn't feasible or reasonable!
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on December 21, 2016, 09:24:49 PM
I got my house! Should have shop set up in a few weeks
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 01, 2017, 06:25:36 PM
Well theres your problem... i think i may have had an injector fail havnt tested them yet. Almost dont care to because i wont be reusing them cuz im upsizing for e85

(https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/15876844_1517353704960850_6764553407932923904_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 22, 2017, 08:07:04 PM
Owning a house has been putting a huge slowdown on my bike. I went ahead and bought a 1200 engine so I can continue to ride and do things with the bike while I take my time rebuilding my original engine.

I really want to add a knock sensor this time around. I have read alot about the gm ESC playing well with the megasquirt but this will require a 3/8ths sensor be drilled and tapped into the block somewhere. If anyone has any type of experience with this type of thing I would appreciate any type of input or suggestions.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on February 22, 2017, 08:50:46 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on February 01, 2017, 06:25:36 PM
Well theres your problem... i think i may have had an injector fail havnt tested them yet. Almost dont care to because i wont be reusing them cuz im upsizing for e85

(https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/15876844_1517353704960850_6764553407932923904_n.jpg)

I missed this earlier -- what does the head look like?  Is that material that was "knocked off" the piston?  Or did it come from the head?  Is that spark plug "splattered" too?

Do some research on knock sensors.  I don't know if the newer ones are better at ignoring mechanical noise, but I'd think it would be a huge challenge on an FJ with the starter/alternator chain, gear driven clutch, and the timing chain rub blocks, etc.  That's one I'll be interested in to see how well it works. 

Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 23, 2017, 07:57:33 PM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/16908230_1787530464908104_3861688778976395264_n.jpg)

New motors in and rough mock-up of the new exhaust setup. Much more practical and picked up about 4 inches of ground clearance under the bike.

The research I have done on knock sensors suggests that each sensor is tuned for a specific frequency for a particular engine setup so retrofit means no gaurentee for positive result but with the versatility of the megasquirt and it's tuning software I think I will be giving it a try anyway. I have seen on car engine knock sensor retrofits people bolt a plate to the engine with a sensor bung welded to said plate and see positive results. I think I may start this way before drilling into the block.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on February 23, 2017, 08:34:04 PM
Maybe see what the air cooled VW crowd uses (or air cooled Porsche).

Don't know if the cases will be noisy - maybe mounted to the head?  Or would valve noise be an issue?  Best of luck - it would be nice to have to assist with ignition tuning.

Nice to pick up the ground clearance - but watch the right hand turns!!
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 25, 2017, 05:08:48 PM
The new header lands right Infront of the oil galley that I was using to feed the turbo. Anyone know where else I could good oil pressure? Could I tee into the oil cooler lines? Which side is the feed and which is the return on the oil pan fittings?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 26, 2017, 12:04:06 AM
Mybad. Apparently there is another galley point on the opposite side of engine that I can use to feed the turbo. And one Infront of the engine I will try to use for oil temp sensor.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on February 26, 2017, 11:15:29 AM
The temp sensor from a Saturn works well. Standard GM sensor that's only 1/8 NPT. 
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on February 26, 2017, 05:35:20 PM
Do you know if it's the same 2 wire plug as the 3/8 not sensor that's already built into my custom harness?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on March 03, 2017, 09:45:22 PM
The new headers don't allow thee intercooler to fit in its place anymore so I had to front front mount it. It actually allows the intercooler piping to fit tighter to the bike and freed up some leg room. Once I get ride of all the couplers and make up some hardpipes for each side it will fit nice an snug. I also got everything from the old motor swaped over to the new motor (turbo oil lines, ignition trigger and pickup,etc) and gathered all the parts to revamp my fuel system. Pics of that to come.

(https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/17125794_1300781940012858_5311154685627858944_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on March 06, 2017, 10:37:13 AM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/17075874_1917225975219638_9085312155665825792_n.jpg)

(https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/17126429_1809615512623743_8271459043264954368_n.jpg)

Had to put the oil cooler back in its stock location because I had to put the intercooler out front.

I got the fuel system redone using a high volume low pressure airtex pump as a lift pump and a new fuel filter from a Chevy cobalt that has a return line to serve as a surge tank dumped some oil in it and she fired right up.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on March 06, 2017, 10:53:06 AM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/17076674_1363556620385884_243976794070319104_n.jpg)

Almost forgot I got the vband flanges and midpipe mostly tacked up need to pick up some more wire today to finish last few tacks then that can come off an get tig'd.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on March 06, 2017, 10:40:13 PM
Quote from: jnimbostratus on February 26, 2017, 05:35:20 PM
Do you know if it's the same 2 wire plug as the 3/8 not sensor that's already built into my custom harness?

Here are pics of the Saturn sensor and connector. 

(http://fjowners.com/gallery/10/171_06_03_17_10_34_42.jpeg)

(http://fjowners.com/gallery/10/171_06_03_17_10_35_30.jpeg)

Hope that helps
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on March 09, 2017, 06:50:36 PM
I have seen in my searching that same sensor with both that plug and the plug I have. I think I will just snip mine off the harness an take it to the parts store an laugh when they ask me what car it's for lol. The one guy at the local AutoZone asked me one day if I owned a shop cuz I'm always getting shot from random vehicles then when I explained to him the parts have all been for my turbo bike he was at a loss for words. Thanks for you help again as always Chris. Btw I'm hoping to get back to the fun part dialing in this tune again by next week. Going to use my buddy's Tig on Sat to get my exhaust finished up.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on March 14, 2017, 06:20:55 PM
Got the exhaust welded up buttoned up a few things and she lives.

http://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t50.2886-16/17354461_375666106148824_8639688957740711936_n.mp4 (http://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t50.2886-16/17354461_375666106148824_8639688957740711936_n.mp4)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on March 26, 2017, 09:10:46 PM
I got the rpmracing oil galley adaptors in the mail and got my oil temp sensor hooked up and redid my turbo oil feed line for a cleaner look with a 90° fitting. Then I got everything ready to test ride then I took it around the block. It is amazing to have second gear. Of course I could not really test it because the roads still to slick here couldn't keep the tire from spinning.

Here's a video of building boost on the 2step at 4000 rpm
http://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t50.2886-16/17501831_1662893714013242_3770945508810424320_n.mp4 (http://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram.com/t50.2886-16/17501831_1662893714013242_3770945508810424320_n.mp4)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on April 16, 2017, 08:16:54 PM
Well I pretty much have everything to where I want it and the tune is in a really good spot. It has never been this fast but for some reason I'm not making more then 6 psi of boost. I think the problem is my wastegate actuator preload. I moved the turbo mounting slightly and I think I'm out of adjustment on the rod. Otherwise running really strong.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on April 20, 2017, 09:30:45 PM
Adjusted​ waste gate actuator and seemed to fix that right up.

Took it on the highway for the first time today since it's been back together and running well. It's unbelievable how hard it pulls at highway speed. At 60mph if I kick it into 3rd gear the turbo spools instantly and it just pulls. 60-120 feels instant. Clutch slipped at one point around 105mph or so. AFRs are beautiful everywhere
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on April 21, 2017, 03:49:53 PM
Excellent!

Videos?!
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on May 30, 2017, 05:15:20 PM
I have been having an absolutely wild time on the rare occasion that I find time to take the bike out. I finally got a new inspection sticker after finding and open minded shop (the Yamaha dealer I tried first walk out looked at the bike started laughing hysterically and said "I'm not putting a sticker on that, look at the size of the effing turbo" then he just walked back inside) the thing is an absolute blast as soon as I get someone willing to cruise with me to get some video from a car I will post it. On the highway it's just a riot.

I do have something haunting me in my sleep tho and it's the got dam gas cap (or lack ther of) right now I just have this Jeep gas cap that I kinda shove in and twist till it holds in place decent. When I bought this tank I was totally oblivious to the fact that it had a 1200 tank on it and I was buying an 1100 tank. I just assumed at the time I would put my old 1200 cap on my new 1100 tank but in my infinite naivety I have found myself in this position of overwhelming frustration. One of you fj gurus must know of some kind of solution outside of a heavily involved fabricated piece. I have tried cross reference to see if a similar cap could fit with no luck. Please someone have the answer I long for.

Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: fj1289 on June 05, 2017, 09:06:40 AM
Hate to say it - probably easier, quicker, and maybe cheaper to chase down another 1200 tank and cap....seems finding a good 1100 cap is like sifting through rocking horse poo looking for hen's teeth on Feb 29th...
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on September 09, 2017, 04:19:01 PM
I blew my turbo oil seals when I redid my exhaust. My drain line was no longer sloped down and caused pooling.  I got a new turbo a little smaller for better response and I added a tial external wastegate while at it but I still need to address the oil drain. Is the plug in the side of the oil pan (right leg side) pressurized? I could weld a bung in the clutch cover but I'm trying to avoid that to get some ride time before winter come.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: Pat Conlon on September 10, 2017, 12:40:22 AM
Yes, as you sit on the bike, the right side pan fitting is to the pressure line up to the oil cooler, left side pan fitting is the return drain to the oil pan.
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on September 10, 2017, 01:00:14 PM
Thanks pat thats what i tjought after googling a pic of the pan. The left side being the drain it is still pressurized correct? It's just returning pressure instead of fed pressure? I need someplace the oil can easily flow to. Is the clutch cover center section thick enough to drill and tap a return above oil level?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on September 12, 2017, 05:39:41 PM
Any one know about this clutch cover center section?
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on September 16, 2017, 08:56:07 PM
Made some progress on the new turbo setup.

(https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/e35/21689185_133708047254004_5519806967121444864_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Jnimbostratus Street Fighter Project
Post by: jnimbostratus on September 18, 2017, 08:49:29 AM
https://instagram.fewr1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/t50.2886-16/21856353_116622172339460_9009539406326923264_n.mp4

One day I will learn how to embed these things