My cracked case got worse during my recent ride with Cap'n Ron and Moparman Steve last week. Since they have not posted any ride pictures then it looks like this will be the first posting. I do know that I added a quart of oil after about 600 miles. On the first day in Santa Margarita at the hotel, it looked like more oil was dripping where I parked. The following morning I added 1/2 qt of oil to top it off. Then the second morning I filled up again with the last half qt.
The current oil after parking:
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/7/104_13_12_14_11_17_30.jpeg)
Then on our way home I saw the scary part.
We stopped at an old stagecoach stop and I saw that the oil was now getting blown onto the right side of my rear wheel. No more tight right hand turns allowed. Mostly freeway home so I made it safe and am parked till I perform some major work or find a second FJ to ride.
So I am now looking at '86 to '90 FJs in good condition. The options seem light right now, Steve will be checking on an '89 down in Chula Vista. Any members thinking of selling, let me know.
We had fun, see:
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/7/104_13_12_14_11_33_07.jpeg)
The Monkey says "No to Crack"!!!
Bummer Mark! Why are you limiting your search to 86-90?
Quote from: Derek Young on December 13, 2014, 11:42:54 AM
Bummer Mark! Why are you limiting your search to 86-90?
I like sporty more than cushy. I might fall asleep on a '91/'92. :sarcastic:
A Yamaha but not an FJ, not affiliated but only a couple of miles away from my house ... http://bend.craigslist.org/mcy/4795707585.html (http://bend.craigslist.org/mcy/4795707585.html)
Quote from: CatTomb on December 13, 2014, 12:30:34 PM
A Yamaha but not an FJ, not affiliated but only a couple of miles away from my house ... http://bend.craigslist.org/mcy/4795707585.html (http://bend.craigslist.org/mcy/4795707585.html)
Thanks, I guess I have options if I think outside the FJ box....
Is this a different crack that is newly become apparent?
Here is an '86 in Arizona. Custom Kenny Roberts paint job.
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/mcy/4803378892.html (http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/mcy/4803378892.html)
Here is an ambulance in Stockton that may interest you.
http://stockton.craigslist.org/mcy/4797808055.html (http://stockton.craigslist.org/mcy/4797808055.html)
Fred
Nice looking FJ here http://wyoming.craigslist.org/mcy/4719900249.html (http://wyoming.craigslist.org/mcy/4719900249.html)
oops, just saw the 86-90 preference
Quote from: aviationfred on December 13, 2014, 12:53:40 PM
Is this a different crack that is newly become apparent?
Here is an '86 in Arizona. Custom Kenny Roberts paint job.
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/mcy/4803378892.html (http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/mcy/4803378892.html)
Here is an ambulance in Stockton that may interest you.
http://stockton.craigslist.org/mcy/4797808055.html (http://stockton.craigslist.org/mcy/4797808055.html)
Fred
I saw the KR add, the full lower is new to me, both are asking way too much for the distance I need to travel and then haggle... Though AZ is not that far... Stockton even closer... I tossed out a few lines to see if they respond... Thanks.
Monkey, you have the resolution in your possession, time to get "cracking".
I have already taken some days off work early January and we can get everything swapped over, address the shock linkage issue and have you ready for the 2015 season.
But, you need to get going.
Randy - RPM
Quote from: ZOA NOM on December 13, 2014, 01:13:18 PM
Nice looking FJ here http://wyoming.craigslist.org/mcy/4719900249.html (http://wyoming.craigslist.org/mcy/4719900249.html)
oops, just saw the 86-90 preference
Is that BMinder's bike for sale?
Quote from: Firehawk068 on December 13, 2014, 02:55:02 PM
Quote from: ZOA NOM on December 13, 2014, 01:13:18 PM
Nice looking FJ here http://wyoming.craigslist.org/mcy/4719900249.html (http://wyoming.craigslist.org/mcy/4719900249.html)
oops, just saw the 86-90 preference
Is that BMinder's bike for sale?
I too was thinking it might be Billy's ride...
Quote from: FJmonkey on December 13, 2014, 11:48:32 AM
Quote from: Derek Young on December 13, 2014, 11:42:54 AM
Bummer Mark! Why are you limiting your search to 86-90?
I like sporty more than cushy. I might fall asleep on a '91/'92. :sarcastic:
Mark, I believe even Pat is begrudgingly falling for the charms of his '92.
When I ride FJ#2, which has no fairing, I can chuck it around like a 250, it feels so much sportier and smaller and faster and and lighter and..... I wonder how much of the difference between early and late model bikes is psychological, looking down at that bigger fairing? On paper they are virtually the same.
A couple of tweaks and they're very nimble and you just can't beat that smooth motor, the more you rev it the smoother it gets.
Unbiased Noel
Hey Monkey man, is the weld that was done holding up? Or is that the source of your leak? Do you need just a motor?
Quote from: fj johnnie on December 14, 2014, 07:35:48 AM
Hey Monkey man, is the weld that was done holding up? Or is that the source of your leak? Do you need just a motor?
There are two main issues at play. I believe my frame is bent (from hitting a curb after a low-side about 17 years ago) that is twisting the case and causing the crack and the oil leak. So when the crack was welded up during my visit to RPM, the engine was put back in the bent frame and caused the crack to return. I have a spare frame that looks to be free of any crash damage (thanks to Randy), it just needs a good media blast and fresh paint. Then swap everything over.
Issue number two is caused by me. I am attempting to use an '89 style shock in an '84/'87 frame. This allows the use of dogbones to correct the swingarm position after putting a 17" wheel on the rear that runs slightly smaller in diameter. I discovered that the shock will not bolt on. This modification requires changing the swingarm to an '89 plus, using the '89 shock link (and I am waiting for confirmation) cutting and welding the upper shock mount on the frame to a higher position. Pictures of the '89 upper shock mount look to have the mounting bolt position higher in the frame. If I am welding and cutting then I need to do this before painting the frame.
Another issue is added cost of fixing second gear, if I am gonna split the cases to repair/replace them, then fix second gear. Now that I am this far down the rabbit hole why not freshen up the top end and make sure the bores are round with fresh rings and new valve guide seals etc... I don't need to do any work on the top end, it just seems like the best opportunity since the engine will be on the bench.
Now add up the cost of getting all this work done. And I have been considering a second bike for a few years, to ride when I restore my '86.
The final issue, I have nothing to ride I till fix the '86 or get a second bike... The 2015 WCR is getting closer and closer, I don't want to miss the rally... So that is the run down on my current situation and possible solutions.
Mark,
Very sorry to read of your bike issues. :empathy3:
If we lived closer, I would gladly lend you my spare runner. I even have a `90 rolling chassis that I would give you. (offer stands for this, but shipping might be prohibitive. Maybe.)
If I could shit engines, I'd give you one of them, too!
Steve :hi:
Quote from: Steve_in_Florida on December 14, 2014, 10:43:18 AM
Mark,
Very sorry to read of your bike issues. :empathy3:
If we lived closer, I would gladly lend you my spare runner. I even have a `90 rolling chassis that I would give you. (offer stands for this, but shipping might be prohibitive. Maybe.)
If I could shit engines, I'd give you one of them, too!
Steve :hi:
Thanks Steve, your sentiments are exactly the kind I am used to getting with this group. But I am not sure if want an engine shat out just for me.... I know your heart is in the right place...
Maybe I need an '89 frame to use the upper shock mount on my spare '86 frame???
With all the resources here you will be running in no time at all...
Thanks Mark. Too many issues to deal with in a short period of time. I am quite interested in your progress with the shock. I was thinking of doing the same thing with an 84 I am restoring and did not realize that the pivot location for the linkage,as well as the shock to frame mount was different than the 89 frame.
What year frame has Randy given you? Sounds like you are on your way with solutions, just require an in between bike to ride. Be careful with those in between bikes. I have six of them now and cannot decide on which one to divest. Good luck and thanks for sharing the info. It saved me a lot of aggravation in the direction I was taking with mine.
Quote from: fj johnnie on December 14, 2014, 11:52:09 AM
Thanks Mark. Too many issues to deal with in a short period of time. I am quite interested in your progress with the shock. I was thinking of doing the same thing with an 84 I am restoring and did not realize that the pivot location for the linkage,as well as the shock to frame mount was different than the 89 frame.
What year frame has Randy given you? Sounds like you are on your way with solutions, just require an in between bike to ride. Be careful with those in between bikes. I have six of them now and cannot decide on which one to divest. Good luck and thanks for sharing the info. It saved me a lot of aggravation in the direction I was taking with mine.
My spare frame is an '86/'87 frame, so it will need the upper mount modified to stay with an '89 style shock. If I get the '89 shock installed on my '86 then I will also post up the project for others. If I am going to jump through this many hoops to get dog-bones, then I will help others decide if they want the same challenge.
Needless to say if I can be of any help let me know. I feel your dilemma. The upper shock mount is no big deal to me but if your engine needs work then perhaps another bike becomes an option for sure. No easy answer. :scratch_one-s_head: Here to help any way I can.
George
Hey MonkeyMark ,
With all the bad weather you should be in the garage "MAKIN IT HAPPEN" .. why not just weld a ride height adjustable lower mount onto the shock? Yeah I know Kaboom.
You just gotta take some care with it.
Seems you are going a long way to fit dog bones on a 86 for adjustable ride height . Forest for the trees .
I still gotta do 2nd gear as well , so ride your ass up here and we will knock em out in a weekend.
Quote from: Mark Olson on December 14, 2014, 02:20:19 PM
Hey MonkeyMark ,
With all the bad weather you should be in the garage "MAKIN IT HAPPEN" .. why not just weld a ride height adjustable lower mount onto the shock? Yeah I know Kaboom.
You just gotta take some care with it.
I am currently making space in my garage so I can either work or park a 2nd FJ... Christmas lights might be up late this year...
Quote from: Mark Olson on December 14, 2014, 02:20:19 PM
Seems you are going a long way to fit dog bones on a 86 for adjustable ride height . Forest for the trees .
You are very correct!!! Thinking that having dog-bones as a bolt-on for my '86 led me down this rabbit hole, now I have to decide if I want to finish and find the bottom... Or cut my losses and get a second FJ...
Fish or cut bait.....
Quote from: FJmonkey on December 14, 2014, 02:27:41 PM
Quote from: Mark Olson on December 14, 2014, 02:20:19 PM
Hey MonkeyMark ,
With all the bad weather you should be in the garage "MAKIN IT HAPPEN" .. why not just weld a ride height adjustable lower mount onto the shock? Yeah I know Kaboom.
You just gotta take some care with it.
I am currently making space in my garage so I can either work or park a 2nd FJ... Christmas lights might be up late this year...
Quote from: Mark Olson on December 14, 2014, 02:20:19 PM
Seems you are going a long way to fit dog bones on a 86 for adjustable ride height . Forest for the trees .
You are very correct!!! Thinking that having dog-bones as a bolt-on for my '86 led me down this rabbit hole, now I have to decide if I want to finish and find the bottom... Or cut my losses and get a second FJ...
Fish or cut bait.....
Man I don't know what to tell ya there . I have done the second bike thing before and we have so much ridin time here in cali that I could never seem to take the time to go back and fix the other bike. It took me 2yrs last time.
I will confess if I was gonna get another year fj it would be the 89-90 ,so we agree on that. :pardon:
Mark Olson said "I will confess if I was gonna get another year fj it would be the 89-90 ,so we agree on that."
Yes, But would you still paint it red and white just to get the extra speed out of it?
Quote from: novaraptor on December 18, 2014, 09:36:26 AM
Mark Olson said "I will confess if I was gonna get another year fj it would be the 89-90 ,so we agree on that."
Yes, But would you still paint it red and white just to get the extra speed out of it?
I could live with a Silver and White, it has a Red stripe. Any other color would be changed to match my '86... I think the technique is now called a "Derek"... Invented in Canada by another ambulance rider. His work shows for its self, awesome....
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/7/34_25_03_14_7_27_53.jpeg)
More pictures here... http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=gallery;su=user;cat=296;u=34 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?action=gallery;su=user;cat=296;u=34)
Quote from: novaraptor on December 18, 2014, 09:36:26 AM
Mark Olson said "I will confess if I was gonna get another year fj it would be the 89-90 ,so we agree on that."
Yes, But would you still paint it red and white just to get the extra speed out of it?
Maybe or do what Frank (racerman ) did with his 86.(http://fjowners.com/gallery/9_08_02_09_12_01_38.JPG)
Monkey not on a red and white goes against all that is natural.
Here is an interesting option on an FJ for sale in the San Diego area
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/ssd/mcy/4799646518.html (http://sandiego.craigslist.org/ssd/mcy/4799646518.html)
Fred
Quote from: aviationfred on December 18, 2014, 09:13:46 PM
Here is an interesting option on an FJ for sale in the San Diego area
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/ssd/mcy/4799646518.html (http://sandiego.craigslist.org/ssd/mcy/4799646518.html)
Fred
A Bat bike... Some nice upgrades... Thanks for the tip...
Quote from: aviationfred on December 18, 2014, 09:13:46 PM
Here is an interesting option on an FJ for sale in the San Diego area
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/ssd/mcy/4799646518.html (http://sandiego.craigslist.org/ssd/mcy/4799646518.html)
Fred
I cannot understand the multitude of bikes for sale stripped of front fenders, painted flat black or some equally ugly color and called a bobber or cafe racer. Then the sellers think they are worth 1000-3000 dollars more than the original. Maybe I'm just of an older generation. Dave
Quote from: TexasDave on December 18, 2014, 10:47:20 PM
Quote from: aviationfred on December 18, 2014, 09:13:46 PM
Here is an interesting option on an FJ for sale in the San Diego area
http://sandiego.craigslist.org/ssd/mcy/4799646518.html (http://sandiego.craigslist.org/ssd/mcy/4799646518.html)
Fred
I cannot understand the multitude of bikes for sale stripped of front fenders, painted flat black or some equally ugly color and called a bobber or cafe racer. Then the sellers think they are worth 1000-3000 dollars more than the original. Maybe I'm just of an older generation. Dave
I have to agree. I like well done customs or ones that are headed that way but these rat bikes are certainly not my taste. But that is just me. As far as how much it is worth, that is between a willing seller and buyer. My brother in law claims "there is an ass for every seat". If the seller wants to sell then at some point the price will meet what a buyer will pay.
George
I haven't seen an FJ bobbed that I've liked. The frame, in my mind, doesn't lend itself well to that. I think I've seen some bobbers with an FJ motor that were pretty cool, but the factory frame just doesn't work. Before I put all the work into bringing mine back from the 90's, I was considering it seriously, but thank God I resisted. I spent some time looking at some bobbers that were pretty nice from a place in North Carolina called Cycle Crazy dot com that does some pretty nice rebuilds on modern cruisers.
Here's a 2007 Suzuki Boulevard they bobbed:
Modern brakes, shaft drive, fuel injection, and badass looks.
(http://cyclecrazy.com/2007-Suzuki/1.jpg)
Here is one that just came up. I don't anything about it. http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcy/4824252606.html (http://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcy/4824252606.html) Claims it is a FJ 1200 1994... 1340.00.
George
Monkey,
Up today on Craigslist - An 86 with 72,ooo, in lake county (that's a little north of me) - the plastics look good, but no front mudguard - the price is keen at $600.
Make one good one out of the two? However, most of the bits for that idea will doubtless come from your bike.
Food for thought,
Andy
Sorry can't post a link - I'm on an apple tablet and it's either uselessly limiting or I!ve not work it out yet.
Andy
Thanks Andy. :good2:
Here ya go...
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/mcy/4825504967.html (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/mcy/4825504967.html)
(http://images.craigslist.org/01111_jJ77DGk2ABh_600x450.jpg)
(http://images.craigslist.org/01313_fhEORybzC2q_600x450.jpg)
(http://images.craigslist.org/00000_a5sbKlMfBnV_600x450.jpg)
Quote from: ZOA NOM on December 30, 2014, 10:17:29 PM
Here ya go...
I need to see what a new case is gonna cost to fix my current bike...
Quote from: FJmonkey on December 30, 2014, 10:36:03 PM
I need to see what a new case is gonna cost to fix my current bike...
$600.00 :good2:
Quote from: Firehawk068 on December 31, 2014, 07:20:40 AM
Quote from: FJmonkey on December 30, 2014, 10:36:03 PM
I need to see what a new case is gonna cost to fix my current bike...
$600.00 :good2:
Nothing but love for you man....
Quote from: ZOA NOM on December 30, 2014, 10:17:29 PM
Here ya go...
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/mcy/4825504967.html (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/mcy/4825504967.html)
(http://images.craigslist.org/01111_jJ77DGk2ABh_600x450.jpg)
(http://images.craigslist.org/01313_fhEORybzC2q_600x450.jpg)
(http://images.craigslist.org/00000_a5sbKlMfBnV_600x450.jpg)
Mark,
With this one you can recoup the cost by selling the un-obtainable FJ1100 OEM mirrors :dance:
Fred
Quote from: aviationfred on January 01, 2015, 12:43:10 AM
Mark,
With this one you can recoup the cost by selling the un-obtainable FJ1100 OEM mirrors :dance:
Fred
Yea, so why switch? What went wrong??? :nea:
hey Monkey, i just bought a '92 for parts
runs great with 75K miles
you can pull the motor
its in Colorado
-just another option
Quote from: fjfool on January 01, 2015, 05:39:57 AM
hey Monkey, i just bought a '92 for parts
runs great with 75K miles
you can pull the motor
its in Colorado
-just another option
Thanks for the offer, a bit far to go for my budget. I love this group. :good2:
Hey mark , check your Pm.
Quote from: FJmonkey on December 31, 2014, 09:59:11 PM
Quote from: Firehawk068 on December 31, 2014, 07:20:40 AM
Quote from: FJmonkey on December 30, 2014, 10:36:03 PM
I need to see what a new case is gonna cost to fix my current bike...
$600.00 :good2:
Nothing but love for you man....
Just think of all the spare parts you could sell off............................. :good:
Quote from: FJmonkey on January 01, 2015, 03:47:49 PM
Quote from: fjfool on January 01, 2015, 05:39:57 AM
hey Monkey, i just bought a '92 for parts
runs great with 75K miles
you can pull the motor
its in Colorado
-just another option
Thanks for the offer, a bit far to go for my budget. I love this group. :good2:
yup, a bit of a drive.
But, if you like to ski, we are having a hella season so far
-the motor will likely be here till spring, if you know anyone traveling cross country-i am 2miles off I-70, i would toss it in their car
i imagine shipping with a standard carrier would cost more than the motor is worth
cheers
Hi Mark.
I just read your posts concerning your shock fitment problems. You refer to it as an 89 style shock which Randy doesn't sell as far as I know. I think what you have is a 91 and later shock which is longer in overall length and also has a longer stroke in comparison to the 89-90 you might want to consider that. Assuming the 89-90 and the 91 and later have the same amount of wheel travel that would indicate to me that the leverage ratio is not the same for the different years as far as swingarm and lower mounting points go. You might want to base your calculations on the 91 and later swingarm and upper mounting point.
Hein.
PM sent Hein