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Title: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: aviationfred on December 04, 2016, 07:52:03 AM
For those that ride in colder temps. A Balaclava is a necessity. Even with a high quality full face helmet, my neck and ears still get extremely cold without one. I have just ordered one of these. http://itemhunters.com/products/motorcycle-winter-fleece (http://itemhunters.com/products/motorcycle-winter-fleece)

I have not received it yet. I am hoping that the vented nose/mouth guard helps with defusing my breath from fogging the face sheild


Fred.


Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: FJ1100mjk on December 04, 2016, 09:38:07 AM
I've used a balaclava when needed. I use one that is thin, because my helmet's fit is snug, and when the weather is colder, I usually have thicker hair on my head. Although as I'm getting older, the latter is less of an issue.  :rofl2:

I'd put the use of the a balaclava, in the same category as heated gear, very nice to have when the conditions warrant, and sorely missed when not available and needed. :good2:


Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: Firehawk068 on December 04, 2016, 12:37:33 PM
Fred,
When you try it out, let us know how the fit is.
I borrowed one once to use under my helmet, and the material was thick enough that it felt like I had to stuff myself into the helmet.
It's hard to believe that that amount of material would make a difference, but it does.

If this particular one was really thin, I'd be interested.


Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: Pat Conlon on December 04, 2016, 12:46:57 PM
You poor bastards.....


Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: aviationfred on December 04, 2016, 01:08:40 PM
Fred,
When you try it out, let us know how the fit is.
I borrowed one once to use under my helmet, and the material was thick enough that it felt like I had to stuff myself into the helmet.
It's hard to believe that that amount of material would make a difference, but it does.

If this particular one was really thin, I'd be interested.

I currently have 2 Balaclava's. One is extremely thin......More like a thin silk shirt, under 35* temps, my ears still get cold. The other is double to triple thickness and works really well on 20*-35* degree days. The thicker one is definitely noticed and takes a minute to get used to the feel of the helmet.

Fred


Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: aviationfred on December 04, 2016, 01:14:16 PM
You poor bastards.....

The price we pay to ride year round.....except when snow and ice are on the roads..... :diablo:....I am not suicidal.  :nea:.... I don't go on long rides....mostly commute the short 7 miles to and from work. :mocking: I rode in 40* and raining yesterday.....riding like that, not cold and not wet is when you know that you have got the right gear.... :yahoo:

Fred


Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: FJ1100mjk on December 04, 2016, 01:32:25 PM
You poor bastards.....


Yea, you've got it made all right. :mocking:
(http://fjowners.com/gallery/10/1388_04_12_16_1_27_58.png)

Do you ride naked, or in the dark, during traditional riding months? Not that we need a visual of the former!  :rofl2:


Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: Pat Conlon on December 04, 2016, 01:50:58 PM
There is a reason the migration pattern in north America flowed from the east to the west and not vice versa.....

There are some tricks you learn when riding in the desert summer heat....like don't be out after 2pm, etc, etc

Luckily I have Hwy 74 at my doorstep. I can be at altitude in 20 minutes.

Fred, do you have a pin lock fog shield on your visor?


Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: aviationfred on December 04, 2016, 04:56:52 PM


Fred, do you have a pin lock fog shield on your visor?


I have a Transitions face shield. They do not offer a pin lock option with the shield.


Fred


Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: ZOA NOM on December 04, 2016, 06:16:34 PM
For those that ride in colder temps. A Balaclava is a necessity. Even with a high quality full face helmet, my neck and ears still get extremely cold without one. I have just ordered one of these. [url]http://itemhunters.com/products/motorcycle-winter-fleece[/url] ([url]http://itemhunters.com/products/motorcycle-winter-fleece[/url])

I have not received it yet. I am hoping that the vented nose/mouth guard helps with defusing my breath from fogging the face sheild


Fred.



Fred, my whole motorcycling world changed when I bought one of these. I can't get my shield to fog no matter how hard I breathe. It's universal, unlike the Pinlock version found for Shoie helmets. I use this one in my Bell with a transitions face shield. It is simply amazing to never worry about fogging up in any conditions. Simply peel and stick on the inside of your shield. Mine is also auto-darkening. No need for sunglasses. I use a simple fleece tube that bunches up around my neck to seal out the wind, and I'm snug as a bug!

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/31FDC3P9K4L.jpg)

https://www.amazon.com/Progrip-Light-Sensitive-No-Fog-Helmet-Shield/dp/B000N8ZX9W (https://www.amazon.com/Progrip-Light-Sensitive-No-Fog-Helmet-Shield/dp/B000N8ZX9W)


Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: rlucas on December 05, 2016, 06:57:36 AM
You poor bastards.....

I thought Pat meant "you poor hairless bastards....."



Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: aviationfred on December 05, 2016, 09:04:03 AM
You poor bastards.....

I thought Pat meant "you poor hairless bastards....."



Thank you Rick...... I have one of the inserts ordered.

Yes..... I resemble that remark.

The photos are 10 years apart. I had hair......then I didn't


Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: ribbert on December 06, 2016, 05:30:28 AM
For those that ride in colder temps. A Balaclava is a necessity. Even with a high quality full face helmet, my neck and ears still get extremely cold without one.

.....I am hoping that the vented nose/mouth guard helps with defusing my breath from fogging the face sheild


Fred.


Fred, have you tried one of these....

(http://cdn.buy2v.co.il/Images/2c3fec0c-1be4-4744-8e72-6c50de2ce650/Normal/5459936e.jpg)

They're mostly either single or double layer Polar Fleece. I've got half a dozen of them (they're cheap) in varying thicknesses, I leave them in all my bags. When it's cold I tuck it in around the base of my helmet for a perfect seal, very cozy. I find balaclavas thick enough to keep you warm are too thick to go under my helmet and the thin ones don't keep you warm (they don't stop the wind coming in under your helmet) and they are claustrophobic and uncomfortable.

If you can keep the wind out of your helmet in the first place there's no need for additional head warming and with the Pinlock you can leave your screen "locked" - no rain, no fogging, no cold air. I also fitted a chin curtain to my helmet. My head and neck are never cold.

A typical mid Winter ride here in the High Country ranges from sub zero to peaking in low single digits plus the wind chill of travelling at highway speeds all day. Then there's that second wave of cold that comes 3 or 4 hours into a ride where the cold starts to creep into your bones.

As has been said already, Pinlock screens (or knock offs) are 100% unfoggable.

Noel


Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: ZOA NOM on December 06, 2016, 11:34:18 AM
Yup, that's the ticket, Noel. Love mine.


Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: giantkiller on December 06, 2016, 01:32:12 PM
I've ridden in -14 degrees. On the ice with my Raptor 700. Tops out 78ish mph. Use one for that.have leather bibs. Kept melting the others when I tucked my knees in by the pipes going around tight corners wheeling up on the outside rear wheel. .. kookaloo


Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: Harvy on December 06, 2016, 02:40:36 PM
Being in Qld I seldom have the need for a balaklava, however, I did  find one a few years ago but cant find any makers labelling on it.
Noel, the head section is quite light weight and almost see thru and made of stretchy material so fits my head quite tightly without producing that "my helmet wont fit" problem. the head piece is sewn onto the neck section which is much heavier material, sufficiently long and stretchy to fit down under a jacket and really wind resistant.

Its a good thing. Sorry I cant offer a maker as I'm sure it would find a place in your assorted bags.

Harvy


Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: giantkiller on December 06, 2016, 07:08:04 PM
Fog evaders are the best


Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: FJmonkey on December 06, 2016, 07:13:13 PM
Looks goofy but effective...


Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: giantkiller on December 06, 2016, 10:44:24 PM
Looks goofy but effective...
Yep like I said, even works @ -17 and 78mph


Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: Sparky84 on December 07, 2016, 01:44:16 AM
Being in Qld I seldom have the need for a balaklava,

Harvy

I'm with you Harvy, never needed one,
Used to have a scarf with the old Belstaff for the neck but with new textile Jackets with Liners that go up to your chin I've usually just have a Tee Shirt on underneath.
Living near the coast also has its advantages, winter isn't that cold, tell you the truth, I prefer winter riding (my winter not yours)

Cheers
Alan


Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: giantkiller on December 07, 2016, 07:01:06 AM
I love riding the ice on the river. If it gets above 25 the ice starts to melt because of the current.
This is what I ride. With these tires.


Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: rlucas on December 07, 2016, 07:11:37 AM
I love riding the ice on the river. If it gets above 25 the ice starts to melt because of the current.
This is what I ride. With these tires.

Kinda lends a whole new meaning to "shreddin' it". Team ColeSlaw?



Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: Pat Conlon on December 07, 2016, 07:19:38 PM
Ice studs? Note to self: Remember...Do NOT put your foot down.....

Come on out to Glamis and we will throw a set of these on your bad boy

(http://images.motorcycle-superstore.com/productimages/300/0000-ITP-Sand-Star-Rear-Tire.jpg)

....and you can leave your balaklava at home


Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: Dan Filetti on December 08, 2016, 10:51:37 AM

Fred, have you tried one of these....

([url]http://cdn.buy2v.co.il/Images/2c3fec0c-1be4-4744-8e72-6c50de2ce650/Normal/5459936e.jpg[/url])

They're mostly either single or double layer Polar Fleece. I've got half a dozen of them (they're cheap) in varying thicknesses, I leave them in all my bags. When it's cold I tuck it in around the base of my helmet for a perfect seal, very cozy. I find balaclavas thick enough to keep you warm are too thick to go under my helmet and the thin ones don't keep you warm (they don't stop the wind coming in under your helmet) and they are claustrophobic and uncomfortable.

If you can keep the wind out of your helmet in the first place there's no need for additional head warming and with the Pinlock you can leave your screen "locked" - no rain, no fogging, no cold air. I also fitted a chin curtain to my helmet. My head and neck are never cold.

A typical mid Winter ride here in the High Country ranges from sub zero to peaking in low single digits plus the wind chill of travelling at highway speeds all day. Then there's that second wave of cold that comes 3 or 4 hours into a ride where the cold starts to creep into your bones.

As has been said already, Pinlock screens (or knock offs) are 100% unfoggable.

Noel


I think Noel is referring to the "Neck Gator" but the image would not load -work filters...  Anyway, assuming so, I second his sentiment.  All you need to do is keep the cold air out from under your helmet, these do nicely.

(http://cdn.e4hats.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/600x/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/k/g/kg001nc-black-4.jpg)

Dan


Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: giantkiller on December 08, 2016, 12:37:55 PM
Ice studs? Note to self: Remember...Do NOT put your foot down.....

Come on out to Glamis and we will throw a set of these on your bad boy

([url]http://images.motorcycle-superstore.com/productimages/300/0000-ITP-Sand-Star-Rear-Tire.jpg[/url])

....and you can leave your balaklava at home

Yes Pat Glamis is on my bucket list. Building this house is consuming my life right now. It took till August to get all the bids back. So it's going to consume next year too. But will get to Glamis


Title: Re: upgraded Balaclava
Post by: ribbert on December 09, 2016, 07:29:57 AM



I think Noel is referring to the "Neck Gator" but the image would not load -work filters...  Anyway, assuming so, I second his sentiment.  All you need to do is keep the cold air out from under your helmet, these do nicely.

([url]http://cdn.e4hats.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/600x/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/k/g/kg001nc-black-4.jpg[/url])

Dan


Yes Dan, I was referring to neck gators (they have lots of names) and you are absolutely right, the best way to keep your head warm is to keep the air out of your helmet in the first place.
In the absence of cold air your helmet is very heavily insulated and warm already.
They are readily available at any outdoors/ski shop for not much money.

Noel