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Title: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on September 05, 2018, 05:43:22 PM
WARNING, long story here....

I'm mostly through the 'project', and didn't really consider it a project at first. :Facepalm:
I thought I'd post it here as a lesson in how not to get too over-enthusiastic about painting a bike.

Well, to clarify, I'd suggest doing one bike at a time.

I've three 84's and one 86. All need cosmetic love.

I started with the 86 as I'd recently added a few scrapes and dents. ( http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=17603.0 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=17603.0) )

Plastic repair is something I've now become intimately familiar with. The 86 main fairing was smashed and I bought two replacement ones to make one good one. It turns out that the combination of the smashed one, and the other two allowed me to repair the two replacements!

Unfortunately, doing all the plastic repairs on them is a will sapping exercise. I used Plastex (there are a few versions like it) and a combination of acetone and plumbing parts/kids Lego to make and mould the missing tabs. I've yet to actually plastic weld with a heat gun/filler rod.

The 86 was roadworthy & although pretty ugly, ready for the Aussie FJ Rally.

Upon return it was time to get it ready for painting.

STREWTH!!! How many more cracks can I find?

Hours and hours later, my technique is certainly honed.

The next hurdle....painting.

I can't paint well enough for the bikes to look good so I now have to find a car/bike painter. For those of you living in big cities, or even near big cities, this would not really be a drama. Unfortunately I live in a rural area hours from the nearest decent sized city.

Fortune favours me and I find a guy who is both very good and willing to do the job for cash after hours.

Now it gets interesting. If the guy can do one bike, why not the others.........? They are all ambulance scheme.....hmmm, perhaps I can make this a bigger project and get the 'fleet' looking good....I check with the guy if doing three bikes the same colours (with the 86 being a bit different in the combos of colour) is going to be 'cheaper' or easier in bulk. He said ok before I had a good look at the plastics on the other bikes.

Holy crackville! What have I done to myself.

'Can you do plastic repair as well?' I ask the guy. 'Of course' he says, but it will cost more as he has a 'mate' that does it at work and is also willing to work after hours for cash. Hmmm, a professional to do the repairs for cash, or a lifetime in my shed at night after the kids are asleep and my wife is wondering who she married? Yep, cash to the pro it is.

All is going swimmingly, albeit slowly as this is after hours. A local sign guy has access to all the nice sticker material to make perfect decals. We spend hours together going over all the spare and donor plastics making sure the colours and sizes are right. That dark metallic blue sticker is the hardest one to get right. WE get the push from the painter to get it together and make a final push to have it all correct and ready. The shed day I recently agreed to is looming and I can't wait to put all the bits on the bikes and smile knowlingly about how 'easy' it all was.....NOT!

Then I receive a txt from the painter. 'Call me urgent', oh no....It turns out one of the other painters doing after hours cash really screwed up. The deal they had with their boss was that they could use the booths & equipment as long as it wasn't cars or anything else that would compete with the bosses business. I don't know what went wrong, but upon calling he said the job is off, he can't do it now, I'll have to pick up all the bits. Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....what am I going to do?

I call the people the 'guy' suggested. One does custom cars and hotrods and has not done a complete bike before, let alone 4 bikes worth of parts in various states of prep. Another guy puts his hand up. It turns out he painted a fairing for me some years ago. Not a bad job, but the pin-stripe was wrong and there were a couple of other bits wrong, but in fairness, they were given little instruction as I was not sure myself and didn't care as much as I do now. With just a few weeks remaining before the shed day I commit to the second guy.

This almost brings us to where I'm at now. The shed day has come and gone, my bikes are all naked and unused for about 4 months now. I grabbed all my shit left-over bits and bodged them onto my 'new' 11 'big bore'. Ok, now at least I have a bike to ride wile I'm waiting for the painter to stop putting other stuff ahead of me.

At the shed day we discover the new 11 has a pretty messed up swingarm (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=18099.msg182138#new (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=18099.msg182138#new)) , so I swap everything over to my first 11 (I'm pretty good at it by now), go for a fang and yippee!!! Oh how good it feels.

This week I dropped in to the painter (a weekly excercise in irritation and patience building). I normally get to deal with a guy that thinks any bike without HD on it is a waste of time, and that painting any bike other than a HD is an equal waste. I then get to put up with how crap it is to paint bikes, Yamaha sucks, and he's the funniest, cleverest fat c#!t in the world, and why am I bothering with these old crap piles. As this is not a cash job I politely ask when, and we also need to coordinate the decal due.

To my amazement the boss came out and took me out the back. To my great pleasure the HD f-wit was not doing the job, he's just customer service (he he), the leading hand and his apprentice have been doing the work with all my large scale colour prints of the bikes for reference. The parts are have completed repair and priming is almost finished, except for one tank, and a couple of other parts.

I'm not sure if they will paint them all at once. As they are small parts, and many of the small parts are Silky White I'm hoping they will knock them off and then move on to the main fairings and tanks. The side covers are slightly more complex with the red stickers on the insides yet to be sorted.

That brings the saga up to date. My first 11 needs a top end refresh, my second 11 needs a new swingarm. the wiring is really butchered, and it needs new throttle cables, my third 11 is a project that is completely untouched except the plastics will be half ok, and I now know the engine runs (thanks Pete!), the 86 1200 should be good to go once I get everything back, and ready for kookaloo.

I put this into projects as I'm certain re-assembly will be 'interesting', plus there are the other 'opportunities' for maintenance whilst the bikes are naked.


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on September 06, 2018, 02:54:07 AM
Woo hoo!

I think being frustrated enough to globally share my woes has worked with the ‘it sucks to be Troy’ gods (there are happily not too many of them).

I interrupted a meeting to answer a call from  what I thought was the kids school. Nope, paint mob. They cheerfully let me know I had better come and get some parts that are finished. I just was told there are so many bits from so many bikes they were worried they’d be scratched.

Much to my sons disgust we head over to the paint shop right after school pick up  (he had an urgent appointment on Fortnite before soccer practice).

I am very pleased. They’ve matched the Silky White beautifully.

Here’s a pic with a rough but clean OEM part for comparison.... :good:


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on September 06, 2018, 03:20:25 AM
Oh, I forgot to mention, the paint shop also asked me to drop off a bike so they can check fit and lineup of the fairing/tank/side covers.

A nice touch but a pain in the arse for me. Fortunately, Aldi had their annual sale recently. At the sale among the socks, balaclavas, helmets and other things were aluminium ramps rated at 270kg for bikes. Just enough for an FJ

He he he, hold my beer, these will be good for loading the ride on mower. The box says ‘Not to be used in pairs’. He he he, sure. At $70 each I’ll take the risk. It’s better than my current half assed way!

Anyhoo, one ramp later the project bike with the smashed bits and many other half parts is on the trailer.

On arrival HD fat c+#t fwit is given the job of wheeling project bike in as lineup model.

Tomorrow I’ll try and get some piccies of the set up in the paint shop


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Sparky84 on September 06, 2018, 05:46:47 AM
Looking good, even looks like silver flecks are there.

You are punishing yourself with so many at once..

But you do have a shed with space for them all and more

Great Shed Day also

Cheers
Alan


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on September 08, 2018, 12:28:51 AM
I dropped into the paint shop to grab some piccies, they've made some more progress.

The I might have a pin hole in the tank from Effie and will find out Monday. Shouldn't be too much drama.


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on September 16, 2018, 04:27:09 AM
Update.......no progress at the paint shop.....in fact a bit of a backwards step.
One of the 4 tanks in for the sweet ambo job decided it needed to show off some holes....BUGGER (to quote a Kiwi)!
A quick bit of soldering and back to the paint shop (a bit more than that but, you know....).

A return to the sticker dudes. They showed me a bus they've restored back to an 80's mob here called Deluxe Coach Lines. Well, anyone in the 80's in Oz knew Deluxe, they owned the long distance coach business. I choose not to recall the number of Perth to Sydney trips I did on those coaches. I was a real blowout to see an old Denning coach back in it's 80's livery. Then they showed me my sets ready to go. We compared them to all my shit bits and they are perfect!!!!!!! Just need the painters that can complete a 40 foot bus to work on my bikes.....he he he.

After that little kick in the balls (about getting my job done compared to an entire bus!!!!)) I'm hoping we'll be applying stickers to my bikes next week........if the HD f-wit is on break.....(only joking.....not).

The big panic right now is if the sticker dudes use water to apply the decals. If so the paint masters reckon another 2 weeks to dry. the sticker dudes say no, 2 weeks is wrong, they never dry.......WTF!!!!!

Scary moment averted, apparently using water is another relic of the 80's and they don't do that, they just get it right (he he he, magic).

In fairness to the paint shop, they quoted me a grand a bike & although there are 3 complete bikes, there are actually almost 4 bikes of bits as I've chosen to get a spare 1200 main fairing, spare bottom cowl, and spare tank painted with the others. That takes it to almost 4 bikes in reality (all sweet ambo). We shall see, as with each visit they explain how much extra work it is.

The white is three coats, and the red is three coats then another two. Both get two clear coats, one before stickers and one after.

Here's something weird, I've noticed that only the tank pin stripe and name, and the pin stripe on the fairing and sidecovers are under the factory clear. All the other stickers are over the factory clear coat. Also, the factory clear is inconsistent. Sometimes heavy, sometimes very thin.

During this process I've decided that real hard core concourse is not for me. I've only just come to understand what concourse really means, and it is not what me or my bikes are about. I want to ride my beautiful babies, not trailer them everywhere. So, they will be shiny, nice, and with one exception close, but not quite stock. One bike will be totally stock (Effie). The others will be evil HP monsters that are disguised as FJs. Even Effie is an evil HP monster of her day. But all the girls will be in their sweet ambo bikinis!

Am I rambling, yes. Why? I've actually nothing of use to report on my project.

As an aside (cause I've nothing of use to report), I did find quite a number of bits available in Japan from 36Y bikes wrecked over the years. I've collected an original under seat toolkit, windscreen, cans, headers, miscellaneous bits an pieces, and a swingarm. Most from  bikes that did less k's till now than I do each month. Why didn't I buy one of the bikes? I missed them and they were almost all gone (sad face). I've sucked Japan dry of good parts now. The best bits after that I've found online are either in the US (Unusually Severely expensive), the UK (Unexpectedly Knowledgeably expensive) or Germany (Great, but expensive, or DE-Don't Expect cheap).
As far as Aussie parts go. Well, I think we've ridden most of our FJs so much that the odometer needed an extra two zeros to be realistic. Most of our parts are totally f!cked and worn out. If that isn't the case then some d!ckhead like me probably crashed it.

Perhaps I'll head over tomorrow and see if the HD F-wit is on break and the parts are up for some more work. If not, I'll see how close I get to Ghandi before I lose my shit and start making a fuss.


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on September 21, 2018, 01:09:51 AM
Progress!

Still slow going, perhaps another week or two, but PROGRESS!!!


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: dammag on September 21, 2018, 03:04:46 AM
The red looks great!


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on September 21, 2018, 03:38:35 AM
Thanks mate. They've matched the red perfectly, even with my glasses on :sarcastic:.

For clarification the sequence for the red was described to me as (after primer), white base, two coats of red, then sparkle (G'day Mark), then clear, then rub, then clear.


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: fj1289 on September 21, 2018, 01:48:05 PM
It is all looking good!

The common phrase is “Fast, cheap, or good - you can have only two of them!”   My experience with machine shops is you can only get one!  Paint must be the same way.


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Old Rider on September 21, 2018, 01:49:36 PM
The paint looks great Trosky perfect match on the silky white also like the look of the glossy black on the rear part on the front fender.I think i will do that on mine If i ever get it running again :yes:


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on September 21, 2018, 11:44:06 PM
Here's some pics of the new red, both in the sun and in the shade.

The photos don't show it but the sparkle in the sun on the old part is much more noticeable. The new part is a slightly deeper red than the old.

I have another original red front mud guard and it is different again. Much closer to the new ones.

Given I live in the 'sun burnt land' I'm assuming there is some fade after 30 odd years. I was specific in the side of the old guard (no pun) I chose for the photos as the LHS. If parked on the side stand it is typically leaning over and there is less direct sun angle. Not guaranteed of course, but better than nothing. The RHS is noticeably more faded.

I gave the painters a NOS front guard in a nice felt bag to use as an example of Yamaha Stormy Red, with 'don't touch' written on some tape stuck to it. Somehow it was rubbed and primed for a repaint with the other parts. :cray:

Although it is not an exact match I think I prefer the deeper red. There is a definite sparkle in the red. I'll try and do another photo inside with a white light to get it to show up on the pic. I'll post it in higher res than the others, so apologies to those on low bandwidth, but it shouldn't be too bad.

Given the number of parts NOS and used I have now there are some surprising differences between the shades of Stormy Red. Some are noticeably lighter than others. On the side of tanks I see the red can be as deep as I now have, and on the upper bits near the pinstripe they are much lighter. Side covers vary quite a bit between left and right.

To repeat a bit, I think the deeper red I now have is great. It could also be that I simply can't be bothered or afford to get them to repaint a shade lighter and I'm making the most of what I now have  :sarcastic:. Jokes aside, painting is always a batch process, so everything painted from the same batch will match, and anything from another batch will be different, even if it is just a smidge.


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: ribbert on September 22, 2018, 05:33:29 AM
Paint looks fantastic Troy. I thought they had paint codes for those colours, anyway, looks great and I love the colour.

I can just see them at the next manshed weekend, in the "Exhibit" section of your garage.

"Given I live in the 'sun burnt land" ..... Ah, if only Girt was a colour.

Noel


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Tuned forks on September 22, 2018, 11:25:05 AM
Troyskie, your paint project is coming along nicely.  Yes, red can be a bitch to match and there are soooo many versions of white as well.  Red also fades fastest of all colors.  Don't be discouraged by the time your project is taking either.  It took me two years to repair the plastics and repaint my FZR1000.  That was just one bike, you've got four!

Joe


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on September 22, 2018, 03:10:44 PM
Now Noel you have gone and done it. Faded stormy red is now ‘Girt’! After a few glasses we can be ‘weeping spains’ (that’s a bit of a Longreach ....)

Thanks Joe. I did some more checking. Yamaha seem to have many shades of Stormy red. It is as I’ve mentioned earlier that painting is a batch process. My new red is as good a Stormy Red as any. After so many comparisons I think the quality is better than factory, so that’s a no go for concourse  :sarcastic:


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on September 23, 2018, 02:01:00 AM
I couldn't help myself.

With these parts waiting to go one the bikes I decided to do a test fit....one of three (no not 7 of 9  :sarcastic:)


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Sparky84 on September 23, 2018, 02:07:19 AM
Looking good Troy.

I’d prefer 7 of 9 than 1 of 3, she did fit her Suit well :dance:


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on September 23, 2018, 03:19:57 AM
At least our effies don't get wrinkles  :sarcastic:.

I think her parts went together better than any bike.


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Urban_Legend on September 23, 2018, 05:59:17 PM
Bloody Trekie Nerds.....7 of 9 was well put togerther.


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on September 26, 2018, 03:37:12 AM
He he he....I've been gathering parts to compliment the fresh paint.

I stumbled across this beautiful part, $125 (Aussie), plus post of $10, $135. I don't need it as I've a new Eagle Screen to put on that cost near the same, but couldn't resist NOS....still has the protective plastic and original bag & very old bubble wrap.....Happy Me :dance2:

I've been sent a heap of photos from the painters (the owner not the HD fwit) I'll put them up soon.


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on September 26, 2018, 03:56:45 AM
Here are the pics from the painter.

They are a bit random, and some I didn't know they'd taken.

Hopefully not long now. One of the painters has really gotten his teeth into this project & seems to genuinely care about the job. He's constantly changing his method so each bit is right & easier on the next part.

Anyhoo, here are the pics....

Once all the first clear coats are done on go the stickers (decals Troy, DECALS! They are not stickers... :sarcastic:).


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on September 26, 2018, 04:03:59 AM
Hmmm, must have bumped into an file number limit, here's the rest...


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Old Rider on September 26, 2018, 06:10:42 AM
Ohboy that painter has a lot of work to do im glad im not him i bet he is happy that its the same colors on the parts. looks great  :good:


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: fj1289 on September 26, 2018, 09:40:14 AM
Ohboy that painter has a lot of work to do im glad im not him i bet he is happy that its the same colors on the parts. looks great  :good:

The discussions in the shop for the last month or more:
“Did you finish (sanding/priming/prepping/painting/clear) the FJ (fender/tail/fairing/side panel/trim)?”

“WHICH ONE ?!!!!”

“AGAIN ?!!!!”

“You mean there are MORE ?!!!”



Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Old Rider on September 26, 2018, 11:12:08 AM
Ohboy that painter has a lot of work to do im glad im not him i bet he is happy that its the same colors on the parts. looks great  :good:

The discussions in the shop for the last month or more:
“Did you finish (sanding/priming/prepping/painting/clear) the FJ (fender/tail/fairing/side panel/trim)?”

“WHICH ONE ?!!!!”

“AGAIN ?!!!!”

“You mean there are MORE ?!!!”



or did you wash  degrease with siliconeremower sand wash and deagrease and fill in scratches with bondo sand the bondo and wash degrease and spray 3 coats of primer with sanding and degrease between coats and 2 coats of basecoat and then 2 coats of pearleffect coats and  1 layer clearcote and then mount the decals and then 2 coats clearcote and then wetsand and buff and polish the FJ parts today?


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on September 28, 2018, 03:15:23 AM
DECAL TIME!!!!!

But there's a catch.....


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: dammag on September 28, 2018, 03:20:17 AM
WOW!

Has anyone done a 3CV in those colours?

I like the paint on my bike but it is a bit "boring". I would like to find a spare bike and get the bodywork painted. That colour scheme really "works" for the FJ.


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Sparky84 on September 28, 2018, 04:04:03 AM
Looks like a showroom.

Mate you are making me jealous, my bike has only 1 photogenic side due to a 26yo low side damage which I still haven’t got repaired  :cray:


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Old Rider on September 28, 2018, 10:42:55 AM
Looks brilliant  :good: Can you ask the painter if he can do my bike also? i jump on my bike now and i be there in about 7 or 8 weeks or wait i have no engine.... (popcorn)


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Sparky84 on September 28, 2018, 03:16:44 PM
Looks brilliant  :good: Can you ask the painter if he can do my bike also? i jump on my bike now and i be there in about 7 or 8 weeks or wait i have no engine.... (popcorn)
You’re only getting the other bits painted so no need to bring the engine! :biggrin:


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on September 28, 2018, 09:26:14 PM
Dammag, you've just given me an idea. I've wanted a good reason to look seriously at a 91.

A 3CV in sweet ambo! :nyam2:

Dammit! Why didn't I buy Phil's beautiful spare :Facepalm:
Al, all those cans I bought all have scuffs on the RHS! Nothing that can't be fixed, but seriously all on the RHS. I also checked 1200 FJ muffler sets I have and they all have scuffs on the RHS as well. Is this an FJ phenomenon? When I stacked last year, only the RH muffler got a swipe as well, hmmmm.

Old Rider, I think I might have broken them. If not, then you might be up for a Long Way Down FJ version trip!


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Urban_Legend on September 28, 2018, 11:02:09 PM
Ray will be selling his brothers 93 soon. It has some scratched on the side pods where it had a 0km drop, and Ray had been debating getting them fixed before sale. Otherwise a very nice clean bike.


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on September 28, 2018, 11:05:23 PM
!


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Tuned forks on September 29, 2018, 08:32:06 AM
Super nice work Troyskie.  That'll make an interesting looking stable in your garage when all the bikes are assembled.  Looking forward to finished and assembled photos.

Joe


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on October 04, 2018, 03:11:56 AM
Well, decal day came and went, then the next,.....but wait, YES, decal dude is on the way.

Tomorrow is clear coat day  :dance2:. I was told I could pick them up probably in the late afternoon at COB.

Here's the catch I mentioned....It is school holidays here & we're taking the kids away tomorrow. It will be a great trip, but I'm probably going to be distracted.

The little bit of evil in the catch is, I have to go away for work for a couple of days at the end of the trip, and so, I won't even have seen them finished till at least next Friday. Poor me.


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: ribbert on October 04, 2018, 04:30:43 AM

.........The little bit of evil in the catch is, I have to go away for work for a couple of days at the end of the trip, and so, I won't even have seen them finished till at least next Friday. Poor me.

Chin up Troy, they say anticipation is part of the fun. Think yourself lucky, you get to enjoy that phase even longer now!

How has Tassie never been on your radar?, it's a great place to ride and visit, over-nighting on the ferry adds to the adventure.

Alas, we can't get Victorians to go to rallies in their own backyard, or even out for a coffee, let alone Tassie. I'd be in that for sure, I only have to ride 12km to get to Tassie from my place.

Noel


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on October 13, 2018, 02:48:34 AM
G'day Noel,
Mate, no good reason as to why I've never been to Tassie. I think I need to solve this, in Summer... :biggrin:.

PROGRESS!!!!!!! Photos to follow....The girls look good in their new dresses..... :good:


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on October 13, 2018, 06:20:48 PM
Ta da! :dance2:


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: yaman on October 14, 2018, 07:07:04 AM
what a beautiful sight!


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Tuned forks on October 14, 2018, 10:15:27 AM
Looks like you have a race fleet. Beautiful to look at.

Joe


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: andyoutandabout on October 15, 2018, 12:35:30 AM
Trouser tingling stuff


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Sparky84 on October 15, 2018, 02:24:18 AM
Looking good Troy,
Nice Shiny silver Cans there.
Are they rideable yet?

When the rain finally stops, might be pie day

Cheers Alan


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on October 15, 2018, 08:11:54 PM
Pie day! Yepparoonie!

I love how the camera diminishes all the little flaws. The cans are literally as I received them. I just gave them a wipe. They all need more or less attention, basically a good polish and then scotchy down to the lustre I want, aside from the dents you can't see in the piccies.

All are ride ready!!!!!!!! I've literally been hopping off one straight onto the other and they all feel a little different. The 12 is the most different as I've done the 17" front and back. The two 11's feel more similar, but the first one has better suspension than the second. The second has a 'big bore' but from what Pete and I can work out (mostly Pete) it is probably an 1188, or less, kit for the 1088 motor. The block has 1088 so, unless they've enlarged the cases as well, I doubt its a 1250 etc. It feels good, actually surprisingly good, and I replaced the bent swingarm.

All the bikes need console, triple tree, switch-block clean-ups. My first 11 needs a top end refresh, but it is too much fun just riding at the moment.


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on October 15, 2018, 08:14:23 PM
oooh, I forgot....there are actually 4....the fist in line runs but is not rideable.


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Tuned forks on October 15, 2018, 08:39:52 PM
Okay I'll bite, it must be an Aussie term.  What is pie day, unless it's actually eating fruit pie and in that case I'm with you.

Joe


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on October 15, 2018, 08:51:12 PM
Here you go Joe,... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_pie_(Australia_and_New_Zealand)

My wife is German and considers a pie revolting and messy to eat. I think, hmm, more for me  :nyam2:.

The meat pie is from England originally (Norman era food), but we didn't like their way, so the Kiwi's, South Africans, and Aussies all decided to do better pies.

From the wiki it would seem the Kiwis prefer it more than us, but we stole their flag so that makes us even.

Pie shops are generally from local bakeries and there are vigorous competitions on who makes the best ones. There is a pie shop at the end of a nice ride roughly mid-way between Al and I. Meeting up there is a biker tradition locally. Just like a roadside diner your way with great 'comfort' food.


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Tuned forks on October 15, 2018, 09:00:23 PM
Thanks Troyskie.

As it's about 2pm for you it would seem a good time for pie.  Go get yourself one along with a good Aussie beer mate.

Joe


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on October 15, 2018, 09:07:20 PM
Thanks Joe, he he, I just rang the office and said I won't be back.....hmmm beer, hmmm pie


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: aviationfred on October 15, 2018, 10:58:51 PM
Here you go Joe,... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_pie_(Australia_and_New_Zealand) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_pie_(Australia_and_New_Zealand))

My wife is German and considers a pie revolting and messy to eat. I think, hmm, more for me  :nyam2:.

The meat pie is from England originally (Norman era food), but we didn't like their way, so the Kiwi's, South Africans, and Aussies all decided to do better pies.

Pie shops are generally from local bakeries and there are vigorous competitions on who makes the best ones. There is a pie shop at the end of a nice ride roughly mid-way between Al and I. Meeting up there is a biker tradition locally. Just like a roadside diner your way with great 'comfort' food.

I moved to Kansas 20 years ago and was introduced to this meat pie type of dish. https://www.curiouscuisiniere.com/bierocks/ (https://www.curiouscuisiniere.com/bierocks/)

Troy, your bikes all look amazing.  :good: :good2: :drinks: :hi:

Fred


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Millietant on October 15, 2018, 11:07:08 PM
Here you go Joe,... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_pie_(Australia_and_New_Zealand) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_pie_(Australia_and_New_Zealand))

My wife is German and considers a pie revolting and messy to eat. I think, hmm, more for me  :nyam2:.

The meat pie is from England originally (Norman era food), but we didn't like their way, so the Kiwi's, South Africans, and Aussies all decided to do better pies.

Pie shops are generally from local bakeries and there are vigorous competitions on who makes the best ones. There is a pie shop at the end of a nice ride roughly mid-way between Al and I. Meeting up there is a biker tradition locally. Just like a roadside diner your way with great 'comfort' food.

I moved to Kansas 20 years ago and was introduced to this meat pie type of dish. https://www.curiouscuisiniere.com/bierocks/ (https://www.curiouscuisiniere.com/bierocks/)

Troy, your bikes all look amazing.  :good: :good2: :drinks: :hi:

Fred

Nooooo Fred......those aren't "pies", they're sandwiches.

Pies have pastry on the outside (not dough) and they have proper (meat juice) "gravy" in them as well !!!

 :smile: :smile: :smile:


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Urban_Legend on October 15, 2018, 11:22:01 PM
I do love a good pie. Throw some tomato sauce on it ( not this Ketchup crap) and a beer to wash it down Yum. Food of champions.

On the bike front, Troy's main issue now is, which one does he ride to the Aussie FJ Rally.....OR..... does he bring the official FJ Rally Pace car, like last year, with the trailer and bring all 3? :wacko3:

Mark


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on October 15, 2018, 11:31:50 PM
Hmm, I might have to have an FJ sandwich with some local flavour.... :crazy:


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: ribbert on October 16, 2018, 02:54:54 AM

Nooooo Fred......those aren't "pies", they're sandwiches.

Pies have pastry on the outside (not dough) and they have proper (meat juice) "gravy" in them as well !!!

 :smile: :smile: :smile:

Tony Mac (forum member) spent years trying to convert the yanks to meat pies while working for "Four & Twenty".  They would send a few container loads a year over there. Olivia Newton-John's "Koala Blue" stores were in there somewhere too.

Given America's predilection for fast food I would have thought meat pies would be a no brainer over there.

Noel


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Bones on October 16, 2018, 03:03:31 AM
Yum...
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=aussie+meat+pie&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-au&client=safari (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=aussie+meat+pie&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-au&client=safari)


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Motofun on October 16, 2018, 05:42:22 AM
Meat pie....sort of an Australian hot pocket!   :lol:


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Sparky84 on October 16, 2018, 05:53:37 AM
This is the part of northern route to the Local Pie Shop

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QsxhJK629xk

It’s about a 2hr ride to there.


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Old Rider on October 16, 2018, 09:03:18 AM
Nice looking FJ army you got there ! and hey... you got a kangoro in backyard! i have done some fj makeup yesterday also i placed some blue eyshadow on her wings today.


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Troyskie on October 18, 2018, 02:03:50 AM
Nice!


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Little Pink Steve on June 09, 2019, 05:32:46 AM
The King of Pies.

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Nice fleet you have there.


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Millietant on June 09, 2019, 07:40:47 AM
My god that looks awful...... :Facepalm:

What is that green goop on the plate (certainly not mushy peas) and where's the mashed potato ????


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Little Pink Steve on June 09, 2019, 02:15:54 PM
My god that looks awful...... :Facepalm:

What is that green goop on the plate (certainly not mushy peas) and where's the mashed potato ????

It’s called liquor, it’s a parsley sauce that you cook eels in.  Mash is at the back of the plate.  Unfortunately what was once a part of London life is now being lost.


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Millietant on June 09, 2019, 02:43:53 PM
Well, I have to say that's a paltry serving of mash......anyone dishing out such a tiny portion up north would be lynched for serving so little mash with a pie.

So do I take it that's an eel pie then ???  - really glad I wasn't brought up in London........the favourite/best pie meals I remember were minced beef and onion pie, with mushy peas and chips or mash...or steak pie with mushy peas and chips or mash.

We weren't posh enough to have a "sauce" with our pies, unless it was Ketchup - heck, we didn't even have herbs....they were only for the posh southerners  :sarcastic:

My god that looks awful...... :Facepalm:

What is that green goop on the plate (certainly not mushy peas) and where's the mashed potato ????

It’s called liquor, it’s a parsley sauce that you cook eels in.  Mash is at the back of the plate.  Unfortunately what was once a part of London life is now being lost.


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Tuned forks on June 09, 2019, 03:15:40 PM
the favourite/best pie meals I remember were minced beef and onion pie, with mushy peas and chips or mash...or steak pie with mushy peas and chips or mash

Dean, I like the look of your pies.  Bring a couple back with you the next time okay.  :sarcastic:

Joe


Title: Re: Painting
Post by: Millietant on June 10, 2019, 12:42:21 AM
Oh Joe.....you're in for a treat  :good2: :good2: