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Title: Replacement mirrors
Post by: Scottie1 on December 02, 2018, 05:20:04 PM
I’m looking for bolt on replacement mirrors for an 1986 FJ1200. I tried the CBR 600 mirrors but they didn’t fit any information on what fits would be greatly appreciated.


Title: Re: Replacement mirrors
Post by: FJmonkey on December 02, 2018, 05:38:57 PM
The aftermarket options require a little modification to work. I chose to use the original base to keep the rubber boot and keep some of my sins covered. This requires the base to be modified to take the Honda mirror. And some heat to soften the thread lock and remove the base I did not want. Then I needed a shim spacer to angle them into a useful position.

Or just slot the Honda base and enjoy the view...

http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=9605.msg91343#msg91343 (http://www.fjowners.com/index.php?topic=9605.msg91343#msg91343)


Title: Re: Replacement mirrors
Post by: Ribz0 on December 02, 2018, 07:05:25 PM
Have you had a dig around for OEM mirrors? Or are you changing to get away from them?

I just had a little look but seems you can still get them out there... Not sure what your model is or which side.. but here is an eBay link to one....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1TX-26280-00-Yamaha-Mirror-Assemblyassy-Left-New-Genuine-OEM-Part-/332687027898?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c1 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1TX-26280-00-Yamaha-Mirror-Assemblyassy-Left-New-Genuine-OEM-Part-/332687027898?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c1)

I have been searching for parts for mine... and although things are still available, its all getting a bit pricey...

Cheers


Title: Re: Replacement mirrors
Post by: Urban_Legend on December 02, 2018, 08:25:48 PM
Hey Ribz0

Yes, OEM mirrors are still around and that is what a lot of people prefer, especially those wanting to keep their bikes all original. But as you said they are not cheap.If you are not a pureist then the CBR mirros mentioned above are cheaper, readily available and will give you a view of the world behind you past your elbows.

It is always nice to have options.

PS. Greetings from the East Coast. Grafton NSW

Mark


Title: Re: Replacement mirrors
Post by: Ribz0 on December 03, 2018, 12:49:02 AM
No worries mate... lol... yeah... i get what yr saying about seeing more behind you...

Cheers..


Title: Re: Replacement mirrors
Post by: Scottie1 on December 03, 2018, 03:10:32 AM
Have you had a dig around for OEM mirrors? Or are you changing to get away from them?

I just had a little look but seems you can still get them out there... Not sure what your model is or which side.. but here is an eBay link to one....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1TX-26280-00-Yamaha-Mirror-Assemblyassy-Left-New-Genuine-OEM-Part-/332687027898?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c1 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/1TX-26280-00-Yamaha-Mirror-Assemblyassy-Left-New-Genuine-OEM-Part-/332687027898?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c1)

I have been searching for parts for mine... and although things are still available, its all getting a bit pricey...

Cheers
I didnt really want to pay the prices for new ones i find them expensive.


Title: Re: Replacement mirrors
Post by: aviationfred on December 03, 2018, 06:33:54 AM
As FJmonkey stated, the most common mirror alternatives need to be slightly modified. The most common mirrors are the CBR250/600/1000 and late model Bandit 1200/1250 mirrors. Both the Honda and Suzuki mirror base's require modifying the holes. Here is an example of a modified CBR mount base.


Fred


Title: Re: Replacement mirrors
Post by: Bud Wilkinson on July 28, 2019, 11:58:35 AM
I found a cheap $15.00 set of CBR compatible mirrors to try. My stockers had something large loose and rattling behind the right glass so I thought I'd try them.
The mirrors just don't find a good angle using the FJ mount or modifying the CBR style mount. I have a 3D printer and came up with these. The handed version on the left is what I settled on for the right side. This tips them back an additional 5 degrees and out 10 degrees. As you can see the stock boots fit and look pretty good.


Title: Re: Replacement mirrors
Post by: FJmonkey on July 28, 2019, 03:20:19 PM
Caution: 3D printing is great for testing and toys. My professional experience with printed parts has taught me to not trust the printed bond. You might lose a mirror when the bond lets loose. I have had to redesign a shaft for a potentiometer because it keeps breaking from the torque. Pots don't have much torque, but the repetitive motion seems to split the printed bond. Just a word of caution...


Title: Re: Replacement mirrors
Post by: Bud Wilkinson on July 28, 2019, 03:25:02 PM
FJmonkey,
I too have seen layer adhesion problems with 3D printing. I did use a carbon infused filament for the final part and have it pretty well dialed in. I am going to add a safety wire tether too the mirror stalk and fairing anchor bolt for the safety of it.


Title: Re: Replacement mirrors
Post by: FJmonkey on July 28, 2019, 03:35:21 PM
FJmonkey,
I too have seen layer adhesion problems with 3D printing. I did use a carbon infused filament for the final part and have it pretty well dialed in. I am going to add a safety wire tether too the mirror stalk and fairing anchor bolt for the safety of it.

Awesome, what filament are you using that has the carbon? 1.75 MM I assume?  My experience is mostly with ABS.


Title: Re: Replacement mirrors
Post by: Bud Wilkinson on July 28, 2019, 03:55:53 PM
I forget the brand and am away from it right now. It was highly recomended on Amazon. A PLA blended with carbon fibers. It took a few prints to dial it in from my straight PLA experience.


Title: Re: Replacement mirrors
Post by: Bud Wilkinson on July 29, 2019, 07:32:46 AM
Thid is the Amazon Choice filament I used. It's $25.00 for 1kg spool. For whatever reason I find PLA to be less troublesome than ABS or PETG. This seems to print well at the higher recomended temperature.
"SunTop 3D Carbon Fiber PLA Filament 1.75mm, Rohs Compliance, 1 kg (2.2lbs) Spool, Dimensional Accuracy +/- 0.03 mm,Black"


Title: Re: Replacement mirrors
Post by: Pat Conlon on July 29, 2019, 02:45:26 PM
..... I am going to add a safety wire tether too the mirror stalk and fairing anchor bolt for the safety of it.

That will sure make it safer for the folks riding behind you, however that dangling mirror will now be slapping up against your fairing, beating the shit out of your paint.


Title: Re: Replacement mirrors
Post by: Bud Wilkinson on July 29, 2019, 08:54:11 PM
..... I am going to add a safety wire tether too the mirror stalk and fairing anchor bolt for the safety of it.

That will sure make it safer for the folks riding behind you, however that dangling mirror will now be slapping up against your fairing, beating the shit out of your paint.

Point taken. It'll be time to stop if either one breaks, although I don't think they will.


Title: Re: Replacement mirrors
Post by: Pat Conlon on July 29, 2019, 09:01:58 PM
If it's gonna happen, Murphy's Law dictates that it happens at speed.


Title: Re: Replacement mirrors
Post by: Bud Wilkinson on July 29, 2019, 09:59:53 PM
If it's gonna happen, Murphy's Law dictates that it happens at speed.
Murphy's law and that of Lift over Drag, aerodynamic force vs. printed layer adhesion strength.
The good news is they have gone 150 plus miles of spirited back woods road riding without letting go. So far, so good. Will be vigilant though.