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Title: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: mtc on April 03, 2019, 01:27:32 PM
let's see yours,

i want some cheap protection, but does anyone have experiencing with pucks?


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: ZOA NOM on April 03, 2019, 02:54:35 PM
Crash bars from our host are the protection of choice for the discerning FJer


http://rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=91-93FJEB (http://rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=91-93FJEB)

(http://rpmracingca.com/prodimages/large/91-93FJEB-1.jpg)


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: FJmonkey on April 03, 2019, 10:27:17 PM
I prefer to call them engine/case guards but the Renntec bars from RPM are worth every cent spent. I have seen them put to use so much on one FJ they had to be welded to close up the tubes. Every time the FJ was still ride-able and got the owner home. How much will a tow truck cost? The hassle of getting your bike home on a trailer? I have had a few zero speed drops and one low speed slide on mine. Worth the cost by way more than I spent.  Any protection you can add is good.


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: Firehawk068 on April 03, 2019, 10:51:45 PM
I will "Third" those Renntec Crash-Bars..................Allowed me to ride my FJ back to the Hotel, and then 4-hours back to my Car/Trailer after my "Crash"


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: mtc on April 04, 2019, 12:33:29 AM
i guess we all pride ourselves in keeping the bike off the ground..... but i did start the tread, every rider has doubts or rather should have an insurance program

 aren't they heavy?...just kidding

on my list then


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: FJ Flyer on April 04, 2019, 04:36:55 AM
Renntec all the way.  They will let you ride home.

(http://fjowners.com/gallery/46_08_10_09_5_11_54.jpeg)


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: mtc on April 04, 2019, 10:51:54 AM
Renntec all the way.  They will let you ride home.

([url]http://fjowners.com/gallery/46_08_10_09_5_11_54.jpeg[/url])




do they include hardware specific to the year?, or will stock bolts work?


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: ZOA NOM on April 04, 2019, 11:03:51 AM
Hardware is included. There is a longer bolt at the rear with a spacer.


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: giantkiller on April 04, 2019, 11:16:34 AM
I figured I have almost $5000 into the 1350 motor I should protect it. And they're a good place to mount hyway pegs for when you are slabbing it.


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: mtc on April 04, 2019, 11:56:14 AM
I figured I have almost $5000 into the 1350 motor I should protect it. And they're a good place to mount hyway pegs for when you are slabbing it.


understood...

you removed the screen in the side cover, that's cool, but why?


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: giantkiller on April 04, 2019, 12:37:31 PM
I figured I have almost $5000 into the 1350 motor I should protect it. And they're a good place to mount hyway pegs for when you are slabbing it.


understood...

you removed the screen in the side cover, that's cool, but why?
Good eye.  I have a manual petcock. Only way to reach it. If you aren't close you never notice it's missing.


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: Dads_FJ on April 04, 2019, 01:19:55 PM
I figured I have almost $5000 into the 1350 motor I should protect it. And they're a good place to mount hyway pegs for when you are slabbing it.



understood...

you removed the screen in the side cover, that's cool, but why?

Good eye.  I have a manual petcock. Only way to reach it. If you aren't close you never notice it's missing.


Can you expound on the manual petcock?  Pingel or This RPM One (http://This RPM One)?


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: giantkiller on April 04, 2019, 01:39:28 PM
I had a pingle replica. I had hand made a plate. While on my 34 day sabbatical. With bikes and ATVs in tow. The replica started leaking. So while visiting Randy and Robert in California. I had them install one of theirs. Haven't had a problem since


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: mtc on April 04, 2019, 02:00:30 PM
I figured I have almost $5000 into the 1350 motor I should protect it. And they're a good place to mount hyway pegs for when you are slabbing it.


understood...

you removed the screen in the side cover, that's cool, but why?
Good eye.  I have a manual petcock. Only way to reach it. If you aren't close you never notice it's missing.

ahhh the good old days, turn it off, turn it on..... reserve.....


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: giantkiller on April 04, 2019, 03:55:11 PM
I couldn't get your link to work for the RPM petcock. The one they put on mine is a pingle with the plate for the Fj.

I think it was Noel that posted about an electronic shut off. I haven't gotten a chance to get one yet


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: mtc on April 04, 2019, 04:00:42 PM
I prefer to call them engine/case guards but the Renntec bars from RPM are worth every cent spent. I have seen them put to use so much on one FJ they had to be welded to close up the tubes. Every time the FJ was still ride-able and got the owner home. How much will a tow truck cost? The hassle of getting your bike home on a trailer? I have had a few zero speed drops and one low speed slide on mine. Worth the cost by way more than I spent.  Any protection you can add is good.

yeah less negative connotation vs crash


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: andyoutandabout on April 04, 2019, 06:38:29 PM
Along with my particular tire pressures, I stick with those solid engine bars, DID chains, Michelin tires, RPM fork braces, RPM valves and blue dot calipers. Now you know the winning formula.


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: aviationfred on April 04, 2019, 11:30:28 PM
The renntec bars are the go to protection for the FJ engines. As shown in earlier comments, they are well worth the investment. I work nights and once or twice a year do extended rides well into the night. They Renntec bars are a great place to mount Auxiliary lights.




Fred


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: mtc on April 05, 2019, 12:25:30 AM
The renntec bars are the go to protection for the FJ engines. As shown in earlier comments, they are well worth the investment. I work nights and once or twice a year do extended rides well into the night. They Renntec bars are a great place to mount Auxiliary lights.




Fred

cool who takes the pictures?


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: aviationfred on April 05, 2019, 03:48:54 AM
The renntec bars are the go to protection for the FJ engines. As shown in earlier comments, they are well worth the investment. I work nights and once or twice a year do extended rides well into the night. They Renntec bars are a great place to mount Auxiliary lights.




Fred

cool who takes the pictures?



During FJ Rally's, it has been known that fellow owner or a Pillion rider will position themselves ahead of a ride group and take photos as riders pass by. In this case, there are a few destination roads that are real curvy and attract a lot of riders. Online based photography company's station professional photographers at multiple corners on these very popular roads. You ride the road, the photographers take photos of every vehicle that comes along and later in the day post the photos on their website. You go to their website and find photos of yourself. Pay a fee and download the photos.


Here is a photo with the online company's logo. Riding US 129, Tail of the Dragon in Tennessee

Fred


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: 1tinindian on April 05, 2019, 09:17:51 AM
I will "Third" those Renntec Crash-Bars..................Allowed me to ride my FJ back to the Hotel, and then 4-hours back to my Car/Trailer after my "Crash"
What a memory that was!


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: ZOA NOM on April 05, 2019, 10:30:36 AM
The renntec bars are the go to protection for the FJ engines. As shown in earlier comments, they are well worth the investment. I work nights and once or twice a year do extended rides well into the night. They Renntec bars are a great place to mount Auxiliary lights.




Fred


Shift worker here too... Oh, and you only need to drop the bike on it's side once to convince you the bars are the way to go.

(https://i.imgur.com/CwB28C9.jpg)



Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: Firehawk068 on April 05, 2019, 10:19:16 PM
What a memory that was!

That was a Cold, Foggy ride back to Iowa!


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: GS Jockey on April 15, 2019, 05:15:32 AM
Engine bars every time for me. My mate Linda managed to slide my 3CV down the road at around 30mph a few years back. As well as saving a severe dose of 'Gravel rash' to the (L/H) signal cover, they held the downed bike up off her left leg, enabling the bike to slide away from her as her bike trousers slowed her down. We dusted her down, picked the bike up, she got back on it and rode it home.

I can't ever imagine 'pucks' giving that level of protection. Oh, and as mentioned above, they're good for fixing farkles to. :good:


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: mtc on April 15, 2019, 11:13:20 AM
ok ready to buy and protect the fj investment but they are in back order


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: racerrad8 on April 15, 2019, 03:53:04 PM
ok ready to buy and protect the fj investment but they are in back order

They're in stock. Someone started two carts and added them every time to the new cart. They completed one cart so I have deleted the other cart they started.

There is a set on the shelf.

Plus, we order Renntec every week. So unless they are on back-order from them they are never more than a week away.

Randy - RPM


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: mtc on April 15, 2019, 05:26:34 PM
ok ready to buy and protect the fj investment but they are in back order

They're in stock. Someone started two carts and added them every time to the new cart. They completed one cart so I have deleted the other cart they started.

There is a set on the shelf.

Plus, we order Renntec every week. So unless they are on back-order from them they are never more than a week away.

Randy - RPM

Done, got the fork brace as well, i have the double banjo for the front brakes at the tree, will the brace slam into that anytime soon?


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: aviationfred on April 15, 2019, 10:55:55 PM
ok ready to buy and protect the fj investment but they are in back order

They're in stock. Someone started two carts and added them every time to the new cart. They completed one cart so I have deleted the other cart they started.

There is a set on the shelf.

Plus, we order Renntec every week. So unless they are on back-order from them they are never more than a week away.

Randy - RPM

 will the brace slam into that anytime soon?

On my 89 model, I had installed the RPM fork brace after I had installed upgraded brake components. With the Stock forks and probably the original forks springs, the Horn/bracket did make contact with the fork brace under heavy braking. Enough so that the horn bracket broke.

This is not to say that anything is wrong with the RPM fork brace, or it's design. The Horn/bracket contacting the fork brace showed me 2 things. 1st, The brake upgrade that I did actually provided better stopping power by collapsing the fork springs enough to make contact. 2nd, It showed me that the springs were worn out and needed to be replaced. I installed a set of .85kg Race Tec springs and the RPM fork valves. Problem solved.


Fred


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: mtc on April 20, 2019, 06:00:18 PM
i need help , i bought them but they don't sit flush were it butts up against the frame in the back, i am thinking the flexing is going to chafe the bars and the frames

has anyone had this problem? and it appears it needs a spacer, and it going to end up sticking  out a lot, it doesn't seem right to me.....please assist

Randy sent me pictures of them mounted, anyone can send me a picture of what it should look like?

the read stand-off is too large and it's pushing the bar too far out, i think :dash1:

(https://oi679.photobucket.com/albums/vv159/Salsadancer383/20190420_114803_zpsl8or4xue.jpg) (http://s679.photobucket.com/user/Salsadancer383/media/20190420_114803_zpsl8or4xue.jpg.html)

(https://oi679.photobucket.com/albums/vv159/Salsadancer383/20190420_114700_zpsteur0pxr.jpg) (http://s679.photobucket.com/user/Salsadancer383/media/20190420_114700_zpsteur0pxr.jpg.html)


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: Hersey289 on April 20, 2019, 06:16:45 PM
 They will fit fine. Just start all the bolts so all are loose , then start evenly tightening all of them. The rear plate section that you are concerned with will conform/bend slightly to fitup to the frame. That is my experience with installing them on my '85.

Hope this helps,
Rob


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: mtc on April 20, 2019, 06:33:41 PM
They will fit fine. Just start all the bolts so all are loose , then start evenly tightening all of them. The rear plate section that you are concerned with will conform/bend slightly to fitup to the frame. That is my experience with installing them on my '85.

Hope this helps,
Rob

the chrome plate i took off has a pipe in that area, it is protruding 1 inch out with the crash bar protrusion,  i can crank bolts down, but my looking at it it's gong to have to bend a lot to fit


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: Hersey289 on April 20, 2019, 06:44:50 PM
I would suggest then that you tighten the rear bolt more than the front bolts to get better alignment onto the bung on the frame.

Rob


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: Hersey289 on April 20, 2019, 06:55:12 PM
I would suggest then that you tighten the rear bolt more than the front bolts to get better alignment onto the bung on the frame.

Rob

Sorry, clarification: with rentec bar installed with all bolts loose, bias the rear bolt so that the rentec bar lines up better with the protruding pipe (bung). Once you have this alignment, then continue to evenly tighten all bolts to draw the bar into the frame..


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: mtc on April 20, 2019, 07:01:38 PM
I would suggest then that you tighten the rear bolt more than the front bolts to get better alignment onto the bung on the frame.

Rob

Sorry, clarification: with rentec bar installed with all bolts loose, bias the rear bolt so that the rentec bar lines up better with the protruding pipe (bung). Once you have this alignment, then continue to evenly tighten all bolts to draw the bar into the frame..
Randy told me some of them need spacers, which i am not digging bc it will stick out for no good reason

thank you, but there is a huge gap between the rear strap and the foot peg bracket, it's going to take a lot to bend it to make it flush, as you can see in the picture

maybe someone can show me a picture of my problem solved or even with a spacer?


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: copper on April 20, 2019, 07:04:18 PM
I did not want to bend the back brackets. when i asked randy about he recommended installing a spacer in the hole for the rear bolt. i went down to the heradward store and got a steel bushing like this. i cant remeber because it has been a few years, but I think the 3/4 was a little to long and the tube wasnt touching the frame. i think i ended up with a 5/8

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fimages-na.ssl-images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F61ORWl6opFL._SX425_.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FHillman-Group-943075-Chrome-Spacers%2Fdp%2FB00O3GTPXA&docid=rFNVL7XXGgZXrM&tbnid=Lp1UNlCj7UjGQM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwigt4rx_d_hAhUmsFQKHQ9-ArgQMwiXASgDMAM..i&w=425&h=378&bih=1041&biw=2133&q=hillman%205%2F16%20steel%20spacer&ved=0ahUKEwigt4rx_d_hAhUmsFQKHQ9-ArgQMwiXASgDMAM&iact=mrc&uact=8 (https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fimages-na.ssl-images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F61ORWl6opFL._SX425_.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FHillman-Group-943075-Chrome-Spacers%2Fdp%2FB00O3GTPXA&docid=rFNVL7XXGgZXrM&tbnid=Lp1UNlCj7UjGQM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwigt4rx_d_hAhUmsFQKHQ9-ArgQMwiXASgDMAM..i&w=425&h=378&bih=1041&biw=2133&q=hillman%205%2F16%20steel%20spacer&ved=0ahUKEwigt4rx_d_hAhUmsFQKHQ9-ArgQMwiXASgDMAM&iact=mrc&uact=8)

you said randy sent pictures of it what did he say spacers or no spacer?


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: mtc on April 20, 2019, 07:24:36 PM
I did not want to bend the back brackets. when i asked randy about he recommended installing a spacer in the hole for the rear bolt. i went down to the heradward store and got a steel bushing like this. i cant remeber because it has been a few years, but I think the 3/4 was a little to long and the tube wasnt touching the frame. i think i ended up with a 5/8

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fimages-na.ssl-images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F61ORWl6opFL._SX425_.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FHillman-Group-943075-Chrome-Spacers%2Fdp%2FB00O3GTPXA&docid=rFNVL7XXGgZXrM&tbnid=Lp1UNlCj7UjGQM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwigt4rx_d_hAhUmsFQKHQ9-ArgQMwiXASgDMAM..i&w=425&h=378&bih=1041&biw=2133&q=hillman%205%2F16%20steel%20spacer&ved=0ahUKEwigt4rx_d_hAhUmsFQKHQ9-ArgQMwiXASgDMAM&iact=mrc&uact=8 (https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fimages-na.ssl-images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F61ORWl6opFL._SX425_.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FHillman-Group-943075-Chrome-Spacers%2Fdp%2FB00O3GTPXA&docid=rFNVL7XXGgZXrM&tbnid=Lp1UNlCj7UjGQM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwigt4rx_d_hAhUmsFQKHQ9-ArgQMwiXASgDMAM..i&w=425&h=378&bih=1041&biw=2133&q=hillman%205%2F16%20steel%20spacer&ved=0ahUKEwigt4rx_d_hAhUmsFQKHQ9-ArgQMwiXASgDMAM&iact=mrc&uact=8)

you said randy sent pictures of it what did he say spacers or no spacer?

does that tube have to touch the frame? wouldn't it chafe and make noise when riding? thanks for the link, will i need now bolt too now?

he showed me pics of no spacer, looks good, but i guess i am one of those unfortunate ones, if i can see how a spacer in one looks maybe i won't be so bummed


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: Sparky84 on April 20, 2019, 07:40:05 PM
i need help , i bought them but they don't sit flush were it butts up against the frame in the back, i am thinking the flexing is going to chafe the bars and the frames

has anyone had this problem? and it appears it needs a spacer, and it going to end up sticking  out a lot, it doesn't seem right to me.....please assist

Randy sent me pictures of them mounted, anyone can send me a picture of what it should look like?

the read stand-off is too large and it's pushing the bar too far out, i think :dash1:

([url]https://oi679.photobucket.com/albums/vv159/Salsadancer383/20190420_114803_zpsl8or4xue.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s679.photobucket.com/user/Salsadancer383/media/20190420_114803_zpsl8or4xue.jpg.html[/url])

([url]https://oi679.photobucket.com/albums/vv159/Salsadancer383/20190420_114700_zpsteur0pxr.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s679.photobucket.com/user/Salsadancer383/media/20190420_114700_zpsteur0pxr.jpg.html[/url])

I thought that the renntec bar would have fitted into the hole in the frame!

But looks like it doesn’t, so how do you stop the rub rash on the alloy underneath?


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: mtc on April 20, 2019, 07:51:41 PM
i need help , i bought them but they don't sit flush were it butts up against the frame in the back, i am thinking the flexing is going to chafe the bars and the frames

has anyone had this problem? and it appears it needs a spacer, and it going to end up sticking  out a lot, it doesn't seem right to me.....please assist

Randy sent me pictures of them mounted, anyone can send me a picture of what it should look like?

the read stand-off is too large and it's pushing the bar too far out, i think :dash1:

([url]https://oi679.photobucket.com/albums/vv159/Salsadancer383/20190420_114803_zpsl8or4xue.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s679.photobucket.com/user/Salsadancer383/media/20190420_114803_zpsl8or4xue.jpg.html[/url])

([url]https://oi679.photobucket.com/albums/vv159/Salsadancer383/20190420_114700_zpsteur0pxr.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s679.photobucket.com/user/Salsadancer383/media/20190420_114700_zpsteur0pxr.jpg.html[/url])

I thought that the renntec bar would have fitted into the hole in the frame!

But looks like it doesn’t, so how do you stop the rub rash on the alloy underneath?



i haven't the foggiest idea, looks like a bad design, it should fit in or out but nto be the same diameter as the round tube


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: racerrad8 on April 20, 2019, 08:46:16 PM
i haven't the foggiest idea, looks like a bad design, it should fit in or out but nto be the same diameter as the round tube

Mason,

I'm sorry to hear you are not happy with them. Please box them back up  and I'll send a call tag on monday to pick them up.

There is nothing wrong with the design,  they have been made the same way since I became a Renntec  dealer almost ten years ago. I have sold hundreds of them and have never had any complaints about the design.  Some people have used washers,  others use them as Rob has and others have used spacers like I told you in the email earlier today.

The tube is designed to sit flush against the frame to offer support in the event the bike goes down.  If they fit inside the frame,  the flat plate would not be able to support the weight.

I will call Monday to confirm they are ready to be picked up before completing the call tag.

And to answer your statement in  your email,  no you did not receive the late model bars,  they will not come close to lining up the holes. You received the correct bars,  but if you are not happy,  I'll get them sent back and return for money.

Randy  - RPM


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: mtc on April 20, 2019, 09:23:27 PM
i haven't the foggiest idea, looks like a bad design, it should fit in or out but nto be the same diameter as the round tube

Mason,

I'm sorry to hear you are not happy with them. Please box them back up  and I'll send a call tag on monday to pick them up.

There is nothing wrong with the design,  they have been made the same way since I became a Renntec  dealer almost ten years ago. I have sold hundreds of them and have never had any complaints about the design.  Some people have used washers,  others use them as Rob has and others have used spacers like I told you in the email earlier today.

The tube is designed to sit flush against the frame to offer support in the event the bike goes down.  If they fit inside the frame,  the flat plate would not be able to support the weight.

I will call Monday to confirm they are ready to be picked up before completing the call tag.

And to answer your statement in  your email,  no you did not receive the late model bars,  they will not come close to lining up the holes. You received the correct bars,  but if you are not happy,  I'll get them sent back and return for money.

Randy  - RPM

I am not that great of a mechanic, when i started to install them, they looked like they don't fit and i got concerned and yes you sent me pictures of them fitting without spacers that is nice,

but to see ones with spacers would help a mechanically challenged dude like me.


and with explanations about getting spacers, but i still could not picture still how to do it, until about now, i might have heard vaguely they were included, but it didn't mean anything to me until i had the unit in my hand.

i don't understand why some need spacers and some not.

only now i understand since you  explained the 2 tubes have to meet to support the bike in a crash, now it make sense, i had not idea, no one explained it to me until now

so they have to meet flush? and will they chafe and make noise?

I had no idea they could have been chasing parts, call me lazy really lazy

I am going to look at it again in the next few days time permitting, and let you know, I already trashed the box so that is gone

I may stick a piece of wood in there to fill the gap, may have to measure the gap


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: Sparky84 on April 20, 2019, 10:03:57 PM
The tube is designed to sit flush against the frame to offer support in the event the bike goes down.  If they fit inside the frame,  the flat plate would not be able to support the weight.


Randy  - RPM

Now I can understand why they wouldn’t go inside


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: racerrad8 on April 22, 2019, 11:19:13 AM
I dug back into the corner of the shop to my 86 so I could snap a couple of photos. There is a spacer in there that fills the void/recessed hole on the 86 foot peg bracket. I got a spacer length the allowed the tube to butt against the frame and preload the flat bracket a little bit. There is zero movement, squeaking or any other issue.

The reason some require and other don't is the foot peg bracket itself. Some use recessed holes and others have factory rubber bushings installed.

Hopefully, this will ease the concerns.

Randy - RPM

Man, all of my bikes are dirty...



Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: mtc on April 22, 2019, 03:59:39 PM
I dug back into the corner of the shop my 86 so I can snap a couple of photos. There is a spacer in there that fills the void/recessed hole on the 86 foot peg bracket. I got a spacer length the allowed the tube to butt against the frame and preload the flat bracket a little bit. There is zero movement, squeaking or any other issue.

The reason some require and other don't is the foot peg bracket itself. Some use recessed holes and others have factory rubber bushings installed.

Hopefully, this will ease the concerns.

Randy - RPM

Man, all of my bikes are dirty...


,when i tried to fit it by myself at first , it did not, it's wrong ....so wrong year, raced in my mind


when you sent the the first pics, the first thing that came to mind is oh no, mine don't look like that at all

then,

i told myself no way am i gonna mickey mouse my bike

so with this recent picture, should did that to begin with.... all is good


ok i put a  coupla nuts in there and it works fine, i can actually pull on the bars to to align the holes

and screw it on there with the allen wrench and it's thight

i think it's better than pucks

btw, the fork brace i can feel the difference.....

thanks

 on to the next pressing matter




Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: mtc on May 05, 2019, 10:47:40 PM
I dug back into the corner of the shop my 86 so I can snap a couple of photos. There is a spacer in there that fills the void/recessed hole on the 86 foot peg bracket. I got a spacer length the allowed the tube to butt against the frame and preload the flat bracket a little bit. There is zero movement, squeaking or any other issue.

The reason some require and other don't is the foot peg bracket itself. Some use recessed holes and others have factory rubber bushings installed.

Hopefully, this will ease the concerns.

Randy - RPM

Man, all of my bikes are dirty...



,when i tried to fit it by myself at first , it did not, it's wrong ....so wrong year, raced in my mind


when you sent the the first pics, the first thing that came to mind is oh no, mine don't look like that at all

then,

i told myself no way am i gonna mickey mouse my bike

so with this recent picture, should did that to begin with.... all is good


ok i put a  coupla nuts in there and it works fine, i can actually pull on the bars to to align the holes

and screw it on there with the allen wrench and it's thight

i think it's better than pucks

btw, the fork brace i can feel the difference.....

thanks

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they look cool on there


but

question, does it have to match the pipe, cause, mine is not perfectly aligned, it guess it don't matter much until a crash

(https://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv159/Salsadancer383/20190422_152650_zpsv3xkgebo.jpg) (http://s679.photobucket.com/user/Salsadancer383/media/20190422_152650_zpsv3xkgebo.jpg.html)

(https://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv159/Salsadancer383/20190422_152630_zpsbevsw8gn.jpg) (http://s679.photobucket.com/user/Salsadancer383/media/20190422_152630_zpsbevsw8gn.jpg.html)

(https://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv159/Salsadancer383/20190420_151714_zpsbv13yigs.jpg) (http://s679.photobucket.com/user/Salsadancer383/media/20190420_151714_zpsbv13yigs.jpg.html)

(https://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv159/Salsadancer383/20190422_142232_zpseforom9k.jpg) (http://s679.photobucket.com/user/Salsadancer383/media/20190422_142232_zpseforom9k.jpg.html)


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: racerrad8 on May 06, 2019, 02:21:01 PM
...question, does it have to match the pipe, cause, mine is not perfectly aligned, it guess it don't matter much until a crash

([url]https://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv159/Salsadancer383/20190422_142232_zpseforom9k.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s679.photobucket.com/user/Salsadancer383/media/20190422_142232_zpseforom9k.jpg.html[/url])

That is the manufacturing tolerance on both the motorcycle and then engine bars. Not all of them line up exactly.



BTW, were is the wiper seal for your fork?
([url]https://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv159/Salsadancer383/20190420_151714_zpsbv13yigs.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s679.photobucket.com/user/Salsadancer383/media/20190420_151714_zpsbv13yigs.jpg.html[/url])


Randy - RPM


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: mtc on May 06, 2019, 05:56:37 PM
...question, does it have to match the pipe, cause, mine is not perfectly aligned, it guess it don't matter much until a crash

([url]https://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv159/Salsadancer383/20190422_142232_zpseforom9k.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s679.photobucket.com/user/Salsadancer383/media/20190422_142232_zpseforom9k.jpg.html[/url])

That is the manufacturing tolerance on both the motorcycle and then engine bars. Not all of them line up exactly.



BTW, were is the wiper seal for your fork?
([url]https://i679.photobucket.com/albums/vv159/Salsadancer383/20190420_151714_zpsbv13yigs.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s679.photobucket.com/user/Salsadancer383/media/20190420_151714_zpsbv13yigs.jpg.html[/url])


Randy - RPM



it is moved up, i "sealmate" it since it was weeping, but when i stuck the slim jim in...... a bunch of fluid came out, it rides much much better, since i am so light with the .85 race tech springs

it was on the side stand when i did it, idk if the center stand would have been better to even out the load, nevertheless it is a screw up on my part

so as of now the left fork is short oil, i am thinking instead of the recommended 140mm amount i can go 145 on both, but i really am tired of messing with it for now....


so short answer is , the wiper is not in the shot, but in back where it suppose to be and i think the seal mate did the trick thank goodness!, but short on oil in the left fork :dash2:


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: Charlie-brm on August 01, 2019, 05:56:06 PM
With the Renntec engine guards in place, do they change the angle at which the fallen bike is resting?

Mine has been over (x) times, and the bar ends are into the ground and the mirror rashed up. Apart from the damage, getting it started to come up from horizontal like that, is a bit of effort.



Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: ribbert on August 02, 2019, 08:51:48 AM

...... Apart from the damage, getting it started to come up from horizontal like that, is a bit of effort.


A bit of trivia, that's why the cops like boxer BMW's, they often jump off them and intentionally let the bike drop, the weight's low and they don't go all the way over. I dropped one a while back, amazingly easy to pick up.
You're right, FJ's are a buggar to stand up if on their side, particularly as we get older. I can't pick mine straight up any more, makes me a lot more cautious about parking and off roading when somewhere remote and alone.

Noel


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: krusty on August 02, 2019, 08:48:49 PM
My GL1500 Goldwing is easier to pick up than my FJ.


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: T Legg on August 02, 2019, 11:38:25 PM
I'm not small I'm 205 lbs and my son is 6'-5" 230 lbs .The first time I took my FJ off the center stand while I was standing beside it the bike lurched sideways and I almost dropped it .The next day I let my son ride it while I rode my cb 750.When we went to leave the first place we stopped I looked over and saw my son with a horrified look and the bike laying at his feet.Neither of us will take the bike off the center stand unless we are sitting on it.


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: aviationfred on August 02, 2019, 11:50:11 PM
Neither of us will take the bike off the center stand unless we are sitting on it.



I am on the opposite size spectrum. 5'7" tall with a 30" inseam. I always sit on the bike when I take it off of the center stand.



Fred


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: ryanschoebel on August 03, 2019, 09:15:55 AM

I am on the opposite size spectrum. 5'7" tall with a 30" inseam. I always sit on the bike when I take it off of the center stand.



Fred

Sitting on the bike is the ONLY comfortable way to take the bike off the centerstand I think. For the exact reason Travis mentioned. I wouldnt want the weight shifting the other way. 6 ft 4 225 here


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: ribbert on August 03, 2019, 09:20:58 AM

I am on the opposite size spectrum. 5'7" tall with a 30" inseam. I always sit on the bike when I take it off of the center stand.



Fred

Sitting on the bike is the ONLY comfortable way to take the bike off the centerstand I think. For the exact reason Travis mentioned. I wouldnt want the weight shifting the other way. 6 ft 4 225 here

 :good2:


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: giantkiller on August 03, 2019, 12:19:58 PM
I hate climbing on while it's on the stand. I just stand off to the side and control it with the front brake.


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: Bones on August 03, 2019, 03:09:48 PM
I’ve dropped mine twice, once pushing it off the centre stand at a servo where the concrete was off camber and it fell right side into a garden, took three people to lift it up out of there, brake pedal left a mark on the clutch cover but luckily no other damage. Second time I put the side stand down while getting off, again at a servo, but it wasn’t down properly and could feel it going down and tried to stop it but it was at the point of no return, managed to pick it up again with a lot of effort on my own with no damage. I’ve since then fitted Rentech engine bars but haven’t had the misfortune of dropping it again, so can’t say if it would be easier to pick up from there, I don’t plan to find out either.


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: giantkiller on August 03, 2019, 06:15:53 PM
Did drop my 86. Really steep short(about 6') incline out of a gas station. Had to stop because of traffic. Proceeded to do the splits from the ball bearings/ fine gravel. It rolled back and turned. Now my left leg the one that did the splits is a foot and a half Bellow the wheels. I put it down as lightly as I could. Just bent the clutch lever. Got off the bike and lifted it right up. Still about a foot and a half below the wheels. Amazing what adrenaline can do.


Title: Re: pucks or crash bars?
Post by: mtc on August 03, 2019, 09:39:14 PM
never tried getting any bike off the center stand not sitting on it, it just seems like the natural thing to do, and i never jump off a bike first to do the kick stand, always kick stand first then jump off, 5' 7" 31.5 inseam 129lbs.