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Title: Now that I'm old thinking about getting heated gloves?
Post by: giantkiller on November 21, 2021, 02:49:06 PM
Now that I'm old. Seems the cold is starting to get to me. I have way too many bikes (12 total + my Raptor 700) to put heated grips on everything. So I thought about heated gloves. Was wondering what everyone might suggest an reasoning behind the choice.

... I have been known to ride the ice on my Raptor 700. All day -20f. Best time to ride the rivers.  If it gets above 28f and sunny. The river you just rode out on can open up  due to the current. Making it interesting getting back.

Gloves won't be just for the atv. Also for bikes on the streets 30s and 40s. My hands are the only things that get cold enough to worry about.


Title: Re: Now that I'm old thinking about getting heated gloves?
Post by: RPM - Robert on November 21, 2021, 02:59:05 PM
http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=IgnitorProGlove (http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=IgnitorProGlove)

My dad and some of his friends use these everyday during the winter here. It doesn’t get all that cold but the damp fog makes it bike chilling.

I know Fred has a pair as well that he got last year or the year before.

I think we have them reasonably priced and they work well. Around here you only need the first, of three, temp settings. I think Fred had a problem with them running a size small, but I don’t recall.

They don’t hook to anything on the bike. They have a rechargeable battery pack per glove. And a Y splitter to charge both batteries at once.

*Edit - Fred’s review is on the link. Maybe he can share a bit more on them here. I know my dad has used his set for about 3 years now


Title: Re: Now that I'm old thinking about getting heated gloves?
Post by: T Legg on November 21, 2021, 10:38:07 PM
I bought a set of the ignitor pro's last year. I didn't get them until the end of the winter season but I have ridden with them down into the mid twenties.
  The palms of these gloves are not heated I think to keep them thinner for a better grip and to work with heated grips . My bikes don't have heated grips but the palms of my hands never got cold. On the highest setting riding at speed in the mid twenties my hands felt toasty.
  I have been using non heated ski gloves and I still carry them just in case .These gloves are less bulky, have way better grip, are warmer and very comfortable .
     I first ordered XL size but they were a little tight. Randy read in a post that I said they were a little too small and sent out a pair of 2XL gloves and a postage paid return box for the smaller gloves before I even contacted him. They have great service.
I wear a size 13-1/2 wedding ring to help gauge what size gloves to get . I can usually fit in to extra large gloves so these do seem to run a little small.
 It would be nice if you can buy extra batteries to keep an extra set charging while you ride.



Title: Re: Now that I'm old thinking about getting heated gloves?
Post by: aviationfred on November 22, 2021, 02:39:08 AM
[url]http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=IgnitorProGlove[/url] ([url]http://www.rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=IgnitorProGlove[/url])

I know Fred has a pair as well that he got last year or the year before.

I think we have them reasonably priced and they work well. Around here you only need the first, of three, temp settings. I think Fred had a problem with them running a size small, but I don’t recall.

*Edit - Fred’s review is on the link. Maybe he can share a bit more on them here. I know my dad has used his set for about 3 years now


I absolutely love these gloves. As Travis mentions, the palms are NOT heated and have a very thin layer of insulation. That works great for activating controls. I often ride in the 30's and 20's during the winter. These gloves do the trick with keeping your hands warm. Add the Koso Apollo heated grips and you can knock the temp setting down 1 notch to extend the battery life.
As for size. I use a size Medium (9). For me, the Medium size fit perfectly.
There was a minor issue with the initial ordered gloves. One of then would not heat. As per normal great RPM service. A new set was delivered and the defective gloves were returned to RPM.



Fred


Title: Re: Now that I'm old thinking about getting heated gloves?
Post by: Pat Conlon on November 22, 2021, 08:40:21 AM
It would be nice if you can buy extra batteries to keep an extra set charging while you ride.

Thanks for the info. guys, are the batteries replaceable?

I’ve noticed the heated garment industry is moving away from 12v wired power to the batteries.


Title: Re: Now that I'm old thinking about getting heated gloves?
Post by: RPM - Robert on November 22, 2021, 10:16:16 AM
Yes the batteries are replaceable. They have a cost of $35 each


Title: Re: Now that I'm old thinking about getting heated gloves?
Post by: Pat Conlon on November 22, 2021, 10:23:39 AM
Good news, thanks Robert. Can they be charged while outside the glove?


Title: Re: Now that I'm old thinking about getting heated gloves?
Post by: FJ Flyer on November 22, 2021, 11:28:46 AM
After going through Widder and Gerbing gloves over the years, I found Phenix Flaming Hot Heated Motorcycle Gear.  Ken does great work, makes your gloves to order how you want them.  Great heat, and, so far, great reliability.4

https://www.facebook.com/Phenix-Flaming-Hot-Heated-Motorcycle-Gear-571738242984574 (https://www.facebook.com/Phenix-Flaming-Hot-Heated-Motorcycle-Gear-571738242984574)


Title: Re: Now that I'm old thinking about getting heated gloves?
Post by: red on November 22, 2021, 02:28:15 PM
After going through Widder and Gerbing gloves over the years, I found Phenix Flaming Hot Heated Motorcycle Gear.  Ken does great work, makes your gloves to order how you want them.  Great heat, and, so far, great reliability.4
https://www.facebook.com/Phenix-Flaming-Hot-Heated-Motorcycle-Gear-571738242984574 (https://www.facebook.com/Phenix-Flaming-Hot-Heated-Motorcycle-Gear-571738242984574)
FJ Flyer,

Too many videos to watch them all.  No prices?

Are there no heating elements for the fingers, only for the backs of the hands?
I do not want a "set in stone" firm retail price, but approximately how much do these gloves cost?


Title: Re: Now that I'm old thinking about getting heated gloves?
Post by: RPM - Robert on November 22, 2021, 08:18:55 PM
Good news, thanks Robert. Can they be charged while outside the glove?

Yes, I believe they have to be removed to charge. They use the plug that hooks them to the gloves as the same plug to charge. There is a Velcro “housing” that homes them and keeps them from sliding around.


Title: Re: Now that I'm old thinking about getting heated gloves?
Post by: fj1289 on November 22, 2021, 09:58:28 PM
 I’ve used heated gloves and jacket liner from here: https://www.warmnsafe.com/ (https://www.warmnsafe.com/)

The gloves can be plugged into the jacket liner or worn on their own.  Both can be plugged into a controller box with separate heat controls for each.  Both are a few generations old now, but very happy with them.

Funny story though - assigned to Kabul Afghanistan for a year 2011-2012 and had to go to Italy to pick up a “refurbished” C-27A for the Afghan Aif Force.  Didn’t expect to need “normal” clothes and had to have my wife ship over some clothes.  What jacket did she pack?  My “new one” of course - the electric jacket liner.  Great!  I get to try to go through security on the Afghan side of the airport with jacket with wires running through it ….


Title: Re: Now that I'm old thinking about getting heated gloves?
Post by: ribbert on November 23, 2021, 03:35:23 AM

 .....What jacket did she pack?  My “new one” of course - the electric jacket liner.  Great!  I get to try to go through security on the Afghan side of the airport with jacket with wires running through it ….


Haha, I love it, you couldn't make this stuff up.

Noel


Title: Re: Now that I'm old thinking about getting heated gloves?
Post by: ribbert on November 23, 2021, 04:38:24 AM

I’ve noticed the heated garment industry is moving away from 12v wired power to the batteries.

Pat, I think that may have something to do with the huge increase in popularity of heated gear for all sorts of non motorcycling outdoor activities, from fishing to watching football, I bought my wife a vest for horse riding. However, when you're sitting atop a perfectly good battery and charging system it seems a bit odd to bring your own total loss power supply to the party. It's like having a battery powered radio in your car but using the cars electrical system to charge up the spare batteries for when the radio dies.

I speak with the experience of having used both and to this day, still riding with someone who persists with his battery powered gear despite some very miserable rides. Batteries work better in theory than they do in practice. If you already own or have reason to specifically want battery powered gear, it wouldn't be difficult to hard wire.

When originally researching heated gear I noticed battery powered items were not as generous with the heated areas, I assume this was a compromise to extend battery life.

As someone who loves big rides and loves Winter riding, heated gear is imo one of the best things to happen to motorcycling in the last 50 years. My last big Winter ride was 10 hours a day for 7 days, I had my gear turned on for every minute of it, only varying the heat setting.

Noel


Title: Re: Now that I'm old thinking about getting heated gloves?
Post by: ribbert on November 23, 2021, 05:24:23 AM
Now that I'm old. Seems the cold is starting to get to me. I have way too many bikes (12 total + my Raptor 700) to put heated grips on everything. So I thought about heated gloves. Was wondering what everyone might suggest an reasoning behind the choice.


Dan, re your many bikes, I use hard wired gear and have a fused pigtail straight off the battery (recommended wiring) on each bike and carry one in my jacket pocket should I need to ride someone else's bike any distance in the cold. When not in use they sit under the seat, when needed I pull out a few inches between the seat and the tank. I have a break away connector in case I forget I'm attached to the bike, which is often.

If I thought I'd never see anyone I knew while riding I'd hands down go for the heated handle bar muffs (or non heated with heated grips), those things are a dream. Some of them have a frame to keep their shape making hand removal and insertion easy, windows to see switchgear and even heated if you want. Best thing, you can wear light gloves.

The downside? ...you look like a cross between a BMW rider and pizza delivery guy.

Noel


Title: Re: Now that I'm old thinking about getting heated gloves?
Post by: giantkiller on November 23, 2021, 08:30:52 AM
Thanks Noel the hard wired would work. I could put the wires on the everything. I just couldn't afford the heated grips on everything. Now any recommendations for hard wired gloves/gear.

Thanks everyone for battery powered suggestions.


Title: Re: Now that I'm old thinking about getting heated gloves?
Post by: fj1289 on November 23, 2021, 08:52:48 AM
Thanks Noel the hard wired would work. I could put the wires on the everything. I just couldn't afford the heated grips on everything. Now any recommendations for hard wired gloves/gear.

Thanks everyone for battery powered suggestions.

https://www.warmnsafe.com/collections/12v-for-motorcycling-power-sports (https://www.warmnsafe.com/collections/12v-for-motorcycling-power-sports)

If you get the dual heat-troller you can control the jacket liner and glove temps separately.  If you opt for the pants liner I “think” they use the same setting as the jacket liner.

Looks like they also have a remote heat-troller now - guess you mount it whoever you want and it is Bluetoothed to the unit on the wire harness vice trying to snake wires to your tank bag or somewhere.   


Title: Re: Now that I'm old thinking about getting heated gloves?
Post by: Pat Conlon on November 23, 2021, 10:51:15 AM
I have a pig tail off my battery I use for my Battery Tender.
 I use the same pig tail (via adaptor plug) for my electric vest.
I agree with Noel about preferring 12v wired heated gear for motorcycles.

I had a pair of Tour Master Synergy heated gloves, unfortunately one glove stopped working so I can’t recommend them. Tour Master no longer makes them so beware on buying new old stock.
https://www.thewarmingstore.com/tour-master-synergy-heated-gloves.html (https://www.thewarmingstore.com/tour-master-synergy-heated-gloves.html)

Here’s a current review on the top 5 heated mororcycle gloves.
I like their top pick, the Volt 12v glove, however, it’s a leather glove. I think for snowmobiling you want something water proof.
https://tinyurl.com/ekw3tpmy (https://tinyurl.com/ekw3tpmy)

I now have a Gerbing heated vest which I enjoy and shows to be a very high quality product.
Here is a pair of their heated gloves which are (claimed) waterproof and dual source, both 12v and battery.
https://www.jpcycles.com/product/rz-10006738/gerbing-heated-clothing-men-s-gt5-hybrid-heated-gloves (https://www.jpcycles.com/product/rz-10006738/gerbing-heated-clothing-men-s-gt5-hybrid-heated-gloves)

Cheers Dan!



Title: Re: Now that I'm old thinking about getting heated gloves?
Post by: gumby302ho on November 23, 2021, 02:16:14 PM
 I have not read the entire post but will throw my one cent in. I have heated grips on two bikes. My blackbird and my XRL dualsport. I have rode the dualsport in very cold weather and when its cold enough with the grips on full burn the outside of my fingers and hand turn to ice while the inside of my hand is melting so heated grips are only good to certain point. Now the blackbird mainly flys around on those great warm sunny days and its nice to have heated grips just in case but what I can say if you get on the bike and start right away with a little blast of heat from the grips it helps not getting arm pump and feels good on the hands and wrist which makes for a better ride. Especially power wheelies (yes I am not that old yet like some you)  :drinks:        gloves and heated grips, I need to get a pair.


Title: Re: Now that I'm old thinking about getting heated gloves?
Post by: aviationfred on November 23, 2021, 02:40:40 PM
I have had a Milwaukee M12 power screwdriver for a few years. I have come across this heated jacket, powered by the same M12 batteries.

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Work-Gear/Heated-Gear (https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Work-Gear/Heated-Gear)


Fred


Title: Re: Now that I'm old thinking about getting heated gloves?
Post by: Old Rider on November 23, 2021, 02:41:10 PM
Never used heated grips i just use a 100% wool military glove inside never been too cold with that  :yes:


Title: Re: Now that I'm old thinking about getting heated gloves?
Post by: Old Rider on November 23, 2021, 02:43:52 PM
If it gets really cold how about this ? look like rocky  :sarcastic:


Title: Re: Now that I'm old thinking about getting heated gloves?
Post by: ribbert on November 24, 2021, 04:25:49 AM
I have had a Milwaukee M12 power screwdriver for a few years. I have come across this heated jacket, powered by the same M12 batteries.

https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Work-Gear/Heated-Gear (https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Work-Gear/Heated-Gear)


Fred

Yeah, they're great Fred, all the power tool companies make them. Running off batteries that size and having an endless supply of fully charged ones at hand on a job site makes them a workplace must in the cold. It doesn't really get cold enough here to need them but what a great idea anyway, some even have supercharged pockets for quick bare hand warm ups if the job requires you to work without gloves, sort of like a toaster slot for hands!

Noel


Title: Re: Now that I'm old thinking about getting heated gloves?
Post by: FJ Flyer on November 29, 2021, 06:56:26 AM
After going through Widder and Gerbing gloves over the years, I found Phenix Flaming Hot Heated Motorcycle Gear.  Ken does great work, makes your gloves to order how you want them.  Great heat, and, so far, great reliability.4
https://www.facebook.com/Phenix-Flaming-Hot-Heated-Motorcycle-Gear-571738242984574 (https://www.facebook.com/Phenix-Flaming-Hot-Heated-Motorcycle-Gear-571738242984574)
FJ Flyer,

Too many videos to watch them all.  No prices?

Are there no heating elements for the fingers, only for the backs of the hands?
I do not want a "set in stone" firm retail price, but approximately how much do these gloves cost?

Price depends on what you want.  I got the Olympias.  They were not cheap. But Ken stands by his prodcucts.  After Gerbing was sold, they don't do crap for honoring their warranty.  I've had to repair the both plugs on my Gerbing jacket liner. After killing the Widder and the Gerbing gloves, I bit the bullit, as I ride year round down into single digits.  Yes, wired in the fingers and the hand.

I also have the factory heated grips on my FJR.  But when it gets below about 30 deg, the grips can't keep up, and I use the gloves.