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Started by aviationfred, December 22, 2016, 08:32:30 AM

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jscgdunn

Fred,
One thing you will find, if you ride n the rain, is that that gorgeous small fender will allow water spray everywhere, and you will find road grime all the way back under the seat....On my zx14 conversion I bought a carbon fibre fendaextenda....
92 FJ1200 2008 ZX14 Forks, wheels, 2008 cbr 600 RR swingarm
92 FJ1200 2009 R1 Swinger, Forks, Wheels, 2013 CBR 1000 Shock
90 FJ 1200 (Son # 2), Stock
89 FJ 1200 Built from parts: (Brother bought it) mostly 92 parts inc. motor
84 FJ 1100 (Son #1), 89 forks wheels, blue spots

aviationfred

Quote from: jscgdunn on February 06, 2017, 04:15:39 PM
Fred,
One thing you will find, if you ride n the rain, is that that gorgeous small fender will allow water spray everywhere, and you will find road grime all the way back under the seat....On my zx14 conversion I bought a carbon fibre fendaextenda....


Funny that you mention that. I have a Carbon Fiber one on order coming from Spain


Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

Flynt

Quote from: Pat Conlon on February 06, 2017, 01:31:07 PM
Here's a write up: http://www.fjmods.co.uk/MarcRittner2.htm

When I rebuilt this setup, I used the LSL top triple with bar risers.  The LSL bar that came with the kit was wide and didn't have threads for the bar ends, so I bought the FZ-1 bar from Yamaha and it all fits together like stock...  spacing handlebar to fairing is perfect.  My steering lock doesn't work, but it would if I drilled a new hole in the steering head area...

Properly setup, this front end is pretty incredible...  I've run over a ~5" pine cone in a moderately sharp sweeper with Diane on the back and no drama whatsoever, other than when I saw the cone hiding in the shadows as I entered the corner of course.  It smooths out everything and the tire is always on the ground...  very confidence inspiring.  Highly recommend the mod, but the forks are hen's teeth and it's not easy nor cheap.

Frank
There's plenty of time for sleep in the grave...

Pat Conlon

What is it about Klavdy's bike and pine cones...?

I talked the good folks at Spiegler into selling me just the top triple....they agreed.

Saved me $150 off the price of the kit, as I already have the FZ-1 bar and (Spiegler) brake lines.

They sure are nice people.  Now, where's that damn UPS truck?
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

giantkiller

Quote from: jscgdunn on February 06, 2017, 04:15:39 PM
Fred,
One thing you will find, if you ride n the rain, is that that gorgeous small fender will allow water spray everywhere, and you will find road grime all the way back under the seat....On my zx14 conversion I bought a carbon fibre fendaextenda....
I've never noticed that with my bike's. Huh :unknown:
86 fj1350r
86 fj1380t turbo drag toy (soon)
87 fj1200 865 miles crashed for parts
89 fj1200 touring 2up
87 fzr1000 crashed
87 fzr750r Human Race teams world endurance champion
93 fzr600 Vance n hines ltd for sale
Custom chopper I built
Mini chopper I built for my daughter just like the big 1

giantkiller

Quote from: Pat Conlon on February 06, 2017, 01:31:07 PM
Yep, just as Frank said....also sent mine to GP suspension..

Jeff..Here's a write up: http://www.fjmods.co.uk/MarcRittner2.htm

Still waiting for the YZF750 top triple from Germany (ordered thru Spiegler)

Seeing that tank reminds me of my old Canadian yzf that I had. 1 of 2 in the US. Sold it after a few years. 750 just didn't make any power after riding 1000cc and up.
86 fj1350r
86 fj1380t turbo drag toy (soon)
87 fj1200 865 miles crashed for parts
89 fj1200 touring 2up
87 fzr1000 crashed
87 fzr750r Human Race teams world endurance champion
93 fzr600 Vance n hines ltd for sale
Custom chopper I built
Mini chopper I built for my daughter just like the big 1

jscgdunn

We had a day of riding in the rain (and snow) last year on the way back from WCR on the Crowsnest highway in BC.  Keep in mind that our roads are salted and graveled in winter.  The combination of rain and small bits of dust and sand that was left on the road combined with rainwater was all the way back atop the battery. 
92 FJ1200 2008 ZX14 Forks, wheels, 2008 cbr 600 RR swingarm
92 FJ1200 2009 R1 Swinger, Forks, Wheels, 2013 CBR 1000 Shock
90 FJ 1200 (Son # 2), Stock
89 FJ 1200 Built from parts: (Brother bought it) mostly 92 parts inc. motor
84 FJ 1100 (Son #1), 89 forks wheels, blue spots

jscgdunn

Quote from: aviationfred on February 06, 2017, 04:31:43 PM
Quote from: jscgdunn on February 06, 2017, 04:15:39 PM
Fred,
One thing you will find, if you ride n the rain, is that that gorgeous small fender will allow water spray everywhere, and you will find road grime all the way back under the seat....On my zx14 conversion I bought a carbon fibre fendaextenda....


Funny that you mention that. I have a Carbon Fiber one on order coming from Spain


Fred

Yep...same place mine came from I think.
92 FJ1200 2008 ZX14 Forks, wheels, 2008 cbr 600 RR swingarm
92 FJ1200 2009 R1 Swinger, Forks, Wheels, 2013 CBR 1000 Shock
90 FJ 1200 (Son # 2), Stock
89 FJ 1200 Built from parts: (Brother bought it) mostly 92 parts inc. motor
84 FJ 1100 (Son #1), 89 forks wheels, blue spots

aviationfred

I have been asked by a few members about my cost to do this mod. I have been hesitant to put numbers to all of the items that I needed to purchase, as many of the items I got off of eBay and are subjective to what is available at any given time.  :scratch_one-s_head:

I thought that I would do a comparison of this mod versus the 17" wheel and late model FJ fork conversion for the Anti-dive model FJ's. I was surprised that there was not that much different in price. If you remove the required additional cost of the Handle Bars, Extensions and machine work. The cost is pretty close.

The prices are current as of today for what I have found on eBay for used parts and exactly what I paid for the parts I used for the GSX-R1000 build.

17" wheel and late model FJ forks conversion:


Forks: $192.00

Blue/Silver/Gold dot calipers $70.00

Wheel $93.70

Arashi Rotors $180.00

RPM fork valves $213.61*

RPM fork brace $125.00*

Racetech springs $129.95*

Fork oil 5w $18.47*

= $1022,73   * not including shipping cost from RPM


GSX-R1000 front end mod

Forks, including triple tree, axle, wheel spacer and caliper bolts $306.00

Hand grips $16.95

Bar ends $88.50

Rotors $152.09

Carbon fiber fender $124.46 (OEM fenders are about $40.00)

Titanium rotor bolts $49.99

Calipers $50.00

Lower FJ triple and stem $32.79 (not required if you use the one off of your existing FJ)

Front wheel $139.99

Handle Bars $161.00

Handle Bar extensions $150.00

Machine work $100.00

= $1487.77


Once again, these prices are very subjective. If you buy everything new for either mod, the price will be much higher, or you could find items at much lower cost and save a few dollars.



Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

jscgdunn

The GSX setup is priced lower than R1 of same era I think.
92 FJ1200 2008 ZX14 Forks, wheels, 2008 cbr 600 RR swingarm
92 FJ1200 2009 R1 Swinger, Forks, Wheels, 2013 CBR 1000 Shock
90 FJ 1200 (Son # 2), Stock
89 FJ 1200 Built from parts: (Brother bought it) mostly 92 parts inc. motor
84 FJ 1100 (Son #1), 89 forks wheels, blue spots

fj1289

Quote from: aviationfred on February 16, 2017, 11:37:07 AM

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= $1022,73

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= $1487.77
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FRED!  FOR THE LOVE OF DOG!  YOU CAN'T POST NUMBERS LIKE THAT HERE!!!!

Although my wife has never been on the forum, with all I've done to the bikes - if she ever saw numbers like that I'd have to build a dog house to live in!

Pat Conlon

"...But honey, it's  an investment is safety"...... "Don't you want me to be safe?"
(as she is reviewing at my life insurance policy)

Promote safety.......safety, safety, safety....works every time.
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

fj1289

Quote from: Pat Conlon on February 16, 2017, 08:13:11 PM
"...But honey, it's  an investment is safety"...... "Don't you want me to be safe?"
(as she is reviewing at my life insurance policy)

Promote safety.......safety, safety, safety....works every time.

my wife keeps wanting to increase my life insurance policy .... :unknown:

TexasDave

Quote from: fj1289 on February 16, 2017, 07:38:38 PM
Quote from: aviationfred on February 16, 2017, 11:37:07 AM

...
= $1022,73

...

= $1487.77
..


FRED!  FOR THE LOVE OF DOG!  YOU CAN'T POST NUMBERS LIKE THAT HERE!!!!

Although my wife has never been on the forum, with all I've done to the bikes - if she ever saw numbers like that I'd have to build a dog house to live in!
BAWAHAHAHAHA---This post is funnier than ANY of the jokes I have posted here!

:biggrin:  Dave
A pistol is like a parachute, if you need one and don't have one you will never need one again.

aviationfred

 :blush: Sorry guys...... :flag_of_truce:

I am a single guy.... :rofl2:




Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor