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CMR racing products F1 frame

Started by Indiana jones, November 22, 2018, 06:36:40 PM

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aviationfred

Quote from: Indiana jones on February 17, 2019, 12:14:54 PM
On the lookout for a free flowing, sprung exhaust system now.


The RPM exhaust to my knowledge is a free flow exhaust. Extremely light weight and his held together by springs.

http://rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=RPMHeader


Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

Indiana jones

Quote from: fj1289 on March 08, 2019, 11:13:57 PM
Quote from: Indiana jones on February 17, 2019, 12:14:54 PM
On the lookout for a free flowing, sprung exhaust system now.

That's funny!   I'd assume it would have to be custom fabricated ... stainless?  Or TITANIUM!!
A nice XJR system might need the link pipe modified a small bit at most.
For that reason, stainless would be preferred.
The engine is still the same. 
BMW R1150GS,XT600 Tenere,FJ1100 bobber, Ducati 999 BiP x 2

Pat Conlon

I enjoy Kevin Cameron's articles:
https://www.cycleworld.com/exhaust-pipe-retaining-springs-50-ways-to-get-it-wrong
I remember breaking springs in the old days before swivel hooks.

Only Kevin could make exhaust pipe springs interesting.

Fred, does the RPM system use swivel springs?
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

racerrad8

Quote from: Pat Conlon on March 12, 2019, 08:42:46 PM
Fred, does the RPM system use swivel springs?


Nope. The springs do have the rubber sleeve,but no swiveling ends.

So after many hundreds of thousands of miles ridden on the RPM header system I have never heard of any broken springs.

Randy - RPM
Randy - RPM

Indiana jones

Quote from: aviationfred on March 08, 2019, 11:59:11 PM
Quote from: Indiana jones on February 17, 2019, 12:14:54 PM
On the lookout for a free flowing, sprung exhaust system now.


The RPM exhaust to my knowledge is a free flow exhaust. Extremely light weight and his held together by springs.

http://rpmracingca.com/proddetail.asp?prod=RPMHeader


Fred

I will have to try source something in Europe.
Shipping and tax makes everything overly expensive from North America.
My budget is screwed after buying the frame.

When it is all added up,it wouldn't have been much more expensive to buy a Harris F1 frame.
But I don't see the advantage of the old school, brass welded Harris frame ,apart from it being period correct,and more desireable.
Sure, more flexibility was required back in the 80s with the tyre and suspension tech that was available.
Also, the likes of the TT circuit was a lot bumpier back then,as were most circuits,I would imagine.

I'm looking at a set of Moto Martin headers on Fleabay with a flat 4 into 1 collector box with a 57mm outlet.
Granted a 4-2-1 set up would be better.

BMW R1150GS,XT600 Tenere,FJ1100 bobber, Ducati 999 BiP x 2

Indiana jones

Boom. Stainless,sprung Akrapovic 4-2-1.
BMW R1150GS,XT600 Tenere,FJ1100 bobber, Ducati 999 BiP x 2

JMR


Pat Conlon

I've always wondered for racing purposes....On a 4-2-1 system, if the engine firing order is 1-2-4-3, for proper merge design and scavenging shouldn't the #1 and #4 primaries be connected together and the #2 and #3 be connected?
....it would mean the #1 pipe would have an uneven length in order to cross over #2/3 to connect to #4, or vice-versa, so I suspect that it's more important to have equal length primary pipes vs merge design based of firing order.

All this stuff must have been figured out on a dyno.
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

Indiana jones

Most of the TT spec and Phillip Island bikes have a 4into 1 config, obviously the preferred set up when the budget is there. I'll have to settle for the poor mans choice.
I have located Nova close ratio gears for the standard tranny.
BMW R1150GS,XT600 Tenere,FJ1100 bobber, Ducati 999 BiP x 2

Indiana jones

BMW R1150GS,XT600 Tenere,FJ1100 bobber, Ducati 999 BiP x 2

giantkiller

86 fj1350r
86 fj1380t turbo drag toy (soon)
87 fj1200 865 miles crashed for parts
89 fj1200 touring 2up
87 fzr1000 crashed
87 fzr750r Human Race teams world endurance champion
93 fzr600 Vance n hines ltd for sale
Custom chopper I built
Mini chopper I built for my daughter just like the big 1

Indiana jones

An 11000 mile xjr1300 engine is now going to be the basis for my race engine build.
I'll get it in the frame,as is, while I'm getting a head done.
I can get it wired and running.
BMW R1150GS,XT600 Tenere,FJ1100 bobber, Ducati 999 BiP x 2

fj1289

Awesome progress!  Can't wait to see/hear the finished bike used in anger!

Pat Conlon

I've been told that a lot of the race car guys sleeve the XJR cylinder blocks for durability. It seems that with the XJR's  oem Niksil plated aluminum bore trends to oval under hard use.

What are your plans for your engine?
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

Indiana jones

I've been chatting to Roger Winfield about the best pistons, etc.
His super reliable motors run std xjr13 pistons in std bores with zero problems. Any engine failures have been attributed to pushing things a little bit too far in the revs.
I'm pretty sure he's run an engine for 2 seasons and a precautionary strip revealed minimal wear.
I'll be hoping to get around the 140hp mark with head work,full system, stage 1 Yoshi cams, Mikuni 38 flats and a Dyna ignition.
I have a beautiful lightened crank but I think this will have an adverse effect on power delivery.
I have some Nova close ratio gears to help close up the gaps between gears.
I'll be using a Barnett spring conversion till I can afford a Sigma slipper unit of work out how to convert a zx10r clutch, apparently super reliable and smooth.
BMW R1150GS,XT600 Tenere,FJ1100 bobber, Ducati 999 BiP x 2