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B-29 Doc @ KMCW

Started by 1tinindian, July 18, 2019, 11:45:49 AM

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1tinindian

"I want to be free to ride my machine without being hassled by the "man"!
91 FJ1200

TexasDave

Great picture. Is that at the Waterloo Airport?

Dave
A pistol is like a parachute, if you need one and don't have one you will never need one again.

1tinindian

Quote from: TexasDave on July 18, 2019, 12:16:45 PM
Great picture. Is that at the Waterloo Airport?

Dave
KMCW is Mason City, Iowa
"I want to be free to ride my machine without being hassled by the "man"!
91 FJ1200

Motofun

Interesting trivia.  The B29 project was actually more expensive than the Manhattan project.  Beautiful plane!
'69 Honda Trail 90
'75 Honda CB400F
'85 Yamaha RZ350
'85 Yamaha FJ1100
'89 Yamaha FJ1200
'09 Yamaha 125 Zuma
'09 Kawasaki KZ110 (grand kids)
'13 Suzuki GSXR 750 (track)
'14 Yamaha FZ-09
'18 Suzuki GSXR 1000R (track)
'23 Yamaha Tenere 7
SOLD: CBX,RZ500,Ninja 650,CB400F,V45 Sabre,CB700SC,R1

Tuned forks

They should hire Pat to polish the skin.  :biggrin:

I watched a video of Doc taking off.  It might have been the first flight or maybe not but there were a lot of people attending.  It's awesome to see those behemoths take to the sky.

For those interested, I found the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_AZeMRqCfg
There are a couple people in the video that make it extra special.  You have to watch to understand.

Here is another one.  Awesome seeing a formation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncUdqT8AxY0

Joe
1990 FJ1200-the reacher
1990 FZR 1000-crotch rocket

FJ Flyer

Saw Doc and Fifi at the Reading airshow last year, along with Aliminum Overcast. Have to pony up someday soon to take a ride. Amazing machines.
Chris P.
'16 FJR1300ES
'87 FJ1200
'76 DT250

Wear your gear.


Old Rider

Nice plane but not so nice thinking about this planes was used to drop nuclear bombs over Hiroshima and nagasaki and killed over 140 000 inocent pepole

1tinindian

Quote from: Old Rider on July 20, 2019, 11:16:24 AM
Nice plane but not so nice thinking about this planes was used to drop nuclear bombs over Hiroshima and nagasaki and killed over 140 000 inocent pepole
We, as a country that was attacked by Japan, were tasked to end/win the war by any means possible.
As cruel as that sounds, that is the meaning of war.
"I want to be free to ride my machine without being hassled by the "man"!
91 FJ1200

red

Quote from: Old Rider on July 20, 2019, 11:16:24 AMNice plane but not so nice thinking about this planes was used to drop nuclear bombs over Hiroshima and nagasaki and killed over 140 000 inocent pepole
Old rider,

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.  How many innocent Chinese people were killed by Japanese soldiers, before that?  There is a lot more to the story.
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Cheers,
Red

P.S. Life is too short, and health is too valuable, to ride on cheap parade-duty tires.

TexasDave

Think how many American and Japanese lives were saved by not having to invade main land Japan. Certainly more than killed by the atomic bombs.

Dave
A pistol is like a parachute, if you need one and don't have one you will never need one again.

PaulG

If this is closer to home, you can also catch a ride on this Avro Lancaster MkX the only one left this side of the pond. The Canadain Warplane Heritage Museum has several vintage aircraft you can buy flights on.  Hopefully I'll eventually go for something cheaper though, unless the lottery comes in.

Now for a little diversion ..

Quote from: TexasDave on July 20, 2019, 02:43:45 PM
Think how many American and Japanese lives were saved by not having to invade main land Japan. Certainly more than killed by the atomic bombs.

Dave

To put things into perspective, this has been the mantra for +70yrs yet has been contested by historians and researchers several times over.

Russia had already swept through Manchuria and were ready to invade northern Japan by late August 1945.  Since Truman already dropped both of them, Stalin blinked and went home.  The decision to drop the bomb was based on politics, and had little to do with any military considerations.  It was a signal to the Russians to back off.  Yes the US would probably have incurred horrendous losses if they invaded, but there was never a need to. 

The continued incendiary bombing of Japanese cities would have had the same result.  As cold as it sounds, thousands more civilians would have died, but with nil US/Allied losses.  No physical invasion would have been needed, though plans were prepped for it.  With Russia entering the picture, that changed the timeline for surrender.  The decision to drop it will be disputed for a while yet, until history is once again rewritten by future victors.

Here's the smell of the blood still. All the perfumes of Arabia will not sweeten this little hand...
Lady MacBeth


Now back to the thread....




1992 FJ1200 ABS
YouTube Channel Paul G


aviationfred

I currently work in the building where Doc and Fifi were built.

Photos are of the

B-29 assembly line
737 body integration
787 forward section
Sikorsky CH-53K
Bell V280 tilt rotor
FJ1200 with 737 fuselages

All are built here in Wichita. The first 2 photos are in the same building roughly 70 years apart.


Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

ribbert

Quote from: aviationfred on July 21, 2019, 04:53:45 AM
I currently work in the building where Doc and Fifi were built.

Photos are of the

B-29 assembly line
737 body integration
787 forward section
Sikorsky CH-53K
Bell V280 tilt rotor
FJ1200 with 737 fuselages

All are built here in Wichita. The first 2 photos are in the same building roughly 70 years apart.


Fred

Hey Fred, you're not trying that old trick of taking a piece home in the panniers every night and eventually building a 737 bit by bit in your backyard are you?

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

ribbert

Quote from: PaulG on July 21, 2019, 02:15:55 AM

Now for a little diversion ..

Quote

Thanks Paul, that's very interesting.  I enjoy history and certainly WW2 was one of the biggest, complex and drawn out events of the last century (or maybe it was the flag on the moon fluttering in nil wind or JC appearing on a piece of toast or....

It is interesting that an event such as that with so many living participants is still subject to so much conjecture.

Noel
"Tell a wise man something he doesn't know and he'll thank you, tell a fool something he doesn't know and he'll abuse you"

Tuned forks

That's awesome Fred, to work in a building with so much aviation history.

Joe
1990 FJ1200-the reacher
1990 FZR 1000-crotch rocket