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Best service/shop manual?

Started by Curmudgeon54, September 12, 2019, 07:19:59 AM

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Curmudgeon54

Better late than never, I've finally bought myself an FJ (a low-mileage 1985), and am in search of a good service manual. Which is best (Clymer, Haynes, other?) and where is a good source to get one? Thanks!

FJmonkey

Don't bother with anything other than a GYSM (Genuine Yamaha Service Manual). The others have errors and less information.
The glass is not half full, it was engineered with a 2X safety factor.

'86 Ambulance - Bent frame, cracked case, due for an overhaul
'89 Stormy Blue - Suits my Dark Side

red

Quote from: Curmudgeon54 on September 12, 2019, 07:19:59 AMBetter late than never, I've finally bought myself an FJ (a low-mileage 1985), and am in search of a good service manual. Which is best (Clymer, Haynes, other?) and where is a good source to get one? Thanks!
Curmudgeon54,

I agree on the FSM, if you can find one.  They cost ~US$100 (+/- 10) from a Yamaha dealer, if still available there.  I can't give you a good source, otherwise.  If you buy a used book on-line, make sure that you will be getting the real book, and not just a pirated CD copy (worth less than a buck).  The CDs are mostly illegal scanned copies, which means that you can not Search for any individual word in the book, even when you are looking right at that word.  Yamaha has never released digital copies of the FSM, although their dealers may have them, but not for sale.
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Cheers,
Red

P.S. Life is too short, and health is too valuable, to ride on cheap parade-duty tires.

Curmudgeon54

Thanks for the guidance, gents. Let the search begin...

CutterBill

Never Slow Down, Never Grow Old.

Current Stable:                                                     
FJ1100                                              
FJ1200 (4)
1999 Yamaha WR400 (street-legal)
2015 Super Tenere
2002 Honda Goldwing

Curmudgeon54

Thanks, CutterBill, but looks like they're not interested in shipping or billing to Canada.

JMR

Quote from: FJmonkey on September 12, 2019, 10:00:57 AM
Don't bother with anything other than a GYSM (Genuine Yamaha Service Manual). The others have errors and less information.
Some errors in the genuine manual too if memory serves correct (measurement specs). The OEM manual is the best but that FJ manual is very poor compared to Honda (especially), Suzuki and Kawasaki manuals of that era. The Yamaha manual doesn't even state main and con clearances, bore diameters or bearing thicknesses. It is better than the Cylmer or Haynes as those have all the years packed into one book (gets confusing) instead of a main book with additional model supplements.


Curmudgeon54

Thanks, Robert, but a note at the bottom of the seller's ad says this manual "does NOT COVER FJ 1100 1200 (L-D). It is a SUPPLEMENTARY service manual FJ1200AD FJ1200ADC"

I thought it looked kinda skinny. :smile:

Pat Conlon

1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

Curmudgeon54


iWant2RideMyBike

Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 17, 2019, 06:28:49 PM
http://www.fj1100.com/fjman.htm

Hi, Pat! Are the manuals, that are for sale in this link, copies of the original Yamaha Full Service Manual? I was going to buy a Clymers manual out of habit, but if $15 bucks can get me the full service manual on a CD, I'd opt for that instead!
Current Bike Mods, '86 FJ1200
- Yamaha FJR master cylinders
- '93 FJ1200 front fork and brakes
- RaceTech fork valves
- RPM Racing bar risers
- Progressive Suspension rear shock
- Stainless braided brake lines
- Transpo VR mod
- Vance and Hines 4 to 1 exhaust
- Pod filters
- Stage 3 jet ki

Pat Conlon

Hi Gabe, yes, that is my understanding, you get a full Genuine Yamaha Factory Service Manual on CD.
I think I ordered this CD over 20 years ago....To be honest I didn't use it much.

I'm a bit of a Luddite as I like books, rather than a computer screen and keyboard.
You would not believe the shit I get from my wife when I get grease on the keyboard....
Friggin end of the world....such drama....yea, I like books and manuals better.
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

iWant2RideMyBike

Quote from: Pat Conlon on September 27, 2019, 11:29:29 PM
Hi Gabe, yes, that is my understanding, you get a full Genuine Yamaha Factory Service Manual on CD.
I think I ordered this CD over 20 years ago....To be honest I didn't use it much.

I'm a bit of a Luddite as I like books, rather than a computer screen and keyboard.
You would not believe the shit I get from my wife when I get grease on the keyboard....
Friggin end of the world....such drama....yea, I like books and manuals better.

Oh neat, I think I may use it as a temporary solution until I decide to cough up the money for a physical copy! I actually work in the Software industry, so it's very natural feeling to use a computer to read documents and things of that kind. However, I very much prefer to hold a physical book in my hand as well! Especially if its a manual that I'm try to read off of, because much like your wife, my girlfriend is always hollering at me if she sees me out in the garage with my computer out and a pair of mechanic gloves on, haha! That aside, thanks for the input!  :good2:
Current Bike Mods, '86 FJ1200
- Yamaha FJR master cylinders
- '93 FJ1200 front fork and brakes
- RaceTech fork valves
- RPM Racing bar risers
- Progressive Suspension rear shock
- Stainless braided brake lines
- Transpo VR mod
- Vance and Hines 4 to 1 exhaust
- Pod filters
- Stage 3 jet ki

Motofun

I'm a book guy too.  The old carpenter's thing about measure twice and cut once...I read twice before doing anything complicated.  I put post-it tabs on all the frequently used pages to save thumbing through the index.

When I buy a used bike always ask the owner for any manuals he has...after all, whats he going to need them for?
'69 Honda Trail 90
'75 Honda CB400F
'85 Yamaha RZ350
'85 Yamaha FJ1100
'89 Yamaha FJ1200
'09 Yamaha 125 Zuma
'09 Kawasaki KZ110 (grand kids)
'13 Suzuki GSXR 750 (track)
'14 Yamaha FZ-09
'18 Suzuki GSXR 1000R (track)
'23 Yamaha Tenere 7
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