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Started by ryanschoebel, November 21, 2019, 11:44:23 AM

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ryanschoebel

Hey all, its been in the low 40's, rainy, and just cold here for the last few days. My question to those of us who regularly ride in cold weather climates, how do you combat overcooling of the bike? When its cold here, my bike will always act like I'm riding it ice cold, only marginally better over time. Any tips or tricks to help??
1985 FJ1100-- Atlas (SOLD)
1984 FJ1100-- Storm

CutterBill

Overcooling? Not gonna happen; certainly not at a balmy 40F.  Maybe if it was 50F below zero; but not at 40F. Just use 10W30 oil as specified in the FSM and don't worry about it.
Bill
Never Slow Down, Never Grow Old.

Current Stable:                                                     
FJ1100                                              
FJ1200 (4)
1999 Yamaha WR400 (street-legal)
2015 Super Tenere
2002 Honda Goldwing

balky1

I never change to that 'winter' grade oil. 20W50 always in the engine.


FJ 1100, 1985, sold
FJR 1300, 2009

ryanschoebel

Quote from: CutterBill on November 21, 2019, 11:57:23 AM
Overcooling? Not gonna happen

The bike certainly feels like its overcooling. It bogs, will try and stall if I pull the clutch too fast, and has a slight knock or rattle that always goes away when it warms up. I run 15-40 oil,because thats what I had readily available. None of which were issues I had before the temps dropped. .
1985 FJ1100-- Atlas (SOLD)
1984 FJ1100-- Storm

T Legg

Does it run smoother with the choke on even after it should be warmed up?It's probably a carburetor problem.I ride mine down to twenty with no issues.I think it runs snappier in cold weather.
T Legg

Firehawk068

I ride mine sometimes below freezing here in Colorado..................I have never had an issue with the FJ not warming up.
Yes it does take longer for the oil temp to come up to 180-200+ when it's that cold outside, but I have never experienced the running issues that you describe.
Alan H.
Denver, CO
'90 FJ1200

red

Quote from: ryanschoebel on November 21, 2019, 11:44:23 AMHey all, its been in the low 40's, rainy, and just cold here for the last few days. My question to those of us who regularly ride in cold weather climates, how do you combat overcooling of the bike? When its cold here, my bike will always act like I'm riding it ice cold, only marginally better over time. Any tips or tricks to help?
Ryan,

I'd think there may be a minor carb problem, or maybe (not likely) wetness or dirt in the air filter.  Run a can of SeaFoam carb cleaner (fuel dryer) through the gas tank, mixed as per the label directions.  Bring your air filter inside, and see if it seems damp after a while.  If so, let it dry out indoors overnight, then try it out on a ride to see if that fixes the problem.  If the air filter is dirty, replace it.

Keep us posted.
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Cheers,
Red

P.S. Life is too short, and health is too valuable, to ride on cheap parade-duty tires.

ZOA NOM

Mine absolutely loves the cold air. I would expect you have a carb issue if it doesn't run smoother in the cold.
Rick

Current:
2010 Honda VFR1200 DCT (Full Auto!)
1993 FJ/GSXR 1200 (-ABS)
1987 Porsche 911 Carrera (Race)
1988 Porsche Carrera (Street)
Previous:
1993 FJ1200 (FIREBALL)
1993 FJ1200ABS (RIP my collar bone)
1986 FZ750
1984 FJ600
1982 Seca

aviationfred

I ride year round and I work nights so I often ride at the coldest temps of the day. The temps are often in single digits, teens and the 20's. I have a short ride and I let the bike run on choke for about 2-5 minutes while I get my helmet and gloves on. I do have the RPM oil cooler and an oil temp gauge. Often the oil temp does not get above 160°F. I agree with the previous comments that there may be a fueling issue. Riding in the cold temps has no noticeable performance problems.


Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

balky1

Quote from: T Legg on November 21, 2019, 02:09:09 PM
Does it run smoother with the choke on even after it should be warmed up?It's probably a carburetor problem.I ride mine down to twenty with no issues.I think it runs snappier in cold weather.

I've noticed the same.


FJ 1100, 1985, sold
FJR 1300, 2009

FJ Flyer

Ride year round.  No real issues.  One time had a tendency for the idle to stay a bit high after a long highway run.  Sync'd the carbs and it went away.
Chris P.
'16 FJR1300ES
'87 FJ1200
'76 DT250

Wear your gear.


Millietant

Quote from: balky1 on November 22, 2019, 01:13:15 AM
Quote from: T Legg on November 21, 2019, 02:09:09 PM
Does it run smoother with the choke on even after it should be warmed up?It's probably a carburetor problem.I ride mine down to twenty with no issues.I think it runs snappier in cold weather.

I've noticed the same.

The colder the air, the denser the air, the more oxygen the engine gets on each intake stroke.....more power  :good2:
Dean

'89 FJ 1200 3CV - owned from new.
'89 FJ 1200 3CV - no engine, tank, seat....parts bike for the future.
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - complete runner 2024 resto project
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - became a race bike, no longer with us.
'86 FJ 1200 1TX - sold to my boss to finance the '89 3CV I still own.

ryanschoebel

Thanks for the input everyone! Looks like I've stalled long enough, time to send the carbs to RPM again!
1985 FJ1100-- Atlas (SOLD)
1984 FJ1100-- Storm

f4fwildcat

Not sure if it applies to FJ1200's but could possibly be carburetor icing where condensation ices up on the jet needle and reduces fuel flow. Some bikes have carburetor heaters which mitigates this but couldn't say for sure as I've only had an FJ myself for a short while.

bigbore2

I had the same problem with my engine, it needed to really warm up fully to ride thru the pilot jet range smoothly.
[ idle - 2200 rpm ]  When cold, once the needle hit and above that rpm it ran fine there.

I set it up as RPM says, pilot 40  needle 2.5 turns out.  That made it start better/quicker and got rid of the running problem when cold so I didn't need to warm it up anymore.