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Brake Upgrade for My FJ1100

Started by krusty, June 13, 2020, 08:34:16 PM

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krusty

91 FJ1200
84 FJ1100 x 2
85 FJ1100
89 GL1500
76 CB750F1
72 CB350F
63 C92 x 2
59 C76
62 C100
63 C100
60 Colleda 250TA x 3
63 Suzuki MD50
77 DT125E
77 DT175E x 2
79 DT250F

Pat Conlon

1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

krusty

I should have mentioned that I already have '88 1200 forks fitted to the 1100.
It has stock wheels with early V-Max rotors. I'm guessing that with the stock 16" wheel, larger diam rotors, plus these calipers, should provide very much improved stopping power.
91 FJ1200
84 FJ1100 x 2
85 FJ1100
89 GL1500
76 CB750F1
72 CB350F
63 C92 x 2
59 C76
62 C100
63 C100
60 Colleda 250TA x 3
63 Suzuki MD50
77 DT125E
77 DT175E x 2
79 DT250F

aviationfred

The R1/R6 calipers will work on your 1100 ONLY if you have 88 or later forks, 17 inch front wheel and 298mm or 300mm rotors.

Using the brackets in the following link will allow you to use the R1/R6 calipers with the 1100 anti-dive forks and the 282mm rotors and the 16 inch front wheel

http://www.exactrep.com/acatalog/Front-Hanger-Brackets--pair--12B.html#SID=22

Fred
I'm not the fastest FJ rider, I am 'half-fast', the fastest slow guy....

Current
2008 VFR800 RC46 Vtec
1996 VFR750 RC36/2
1990 FJ1300 (1297cc) Casper
1990 VFR750 RC36/1 Minnie
1989 FJ1200 Lazarus, the Streetfighter Project
1985 VF500F RC31 Interceptor

Millietant

Holy crap Kriusty.......$150 Aus.......that seems mega expensive....glad I live where eBay prices are reasonable !!
Dean

'89 FJ 1200 3CV - owned from new.
'89 FJ 1200 3CV - no engine, tank, seat....parts bike for the future.
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - complete runner 2024 resto project
'88 FJ 1200 3CV - became a race bike, no longer with us.
'86 FJ 1200 1TX - sold to my boss to finance the '89 3CV I still own.

krusty

I got a $20 discount so it was really only $130. Most I found were about $160-$170. Equivalent USD was about $90.
There were cheaper ones on US Ebay but shipping costs were horrendous.
91 FJ1200
84 FJ1100 x 2
85 FJ1100
89 GL1500
76 CB750F1
72 CB350F
63 C92 x 2
59 C76
62 C100
63 C100
60 Colleda 250TA x 3
63 Suzuki MD50
77 DT125E
77 DT175E x 2
79 DT250F

Starquest

Mine is a 1986. 89 forks,gold caliper stainless braided lines, v-max rotors ,r1 master cylinder, on 16 inch wheel.

PaulG

Quote from: krusty on June 14, 2020, 06:24:20 PM
I got a $20 discount so it was really only $130. Most I found were about $160-$170. Equivalent USD was about $90.
There were cheaper ones on US Ebay but shipping costs were horrendous.

Ouch.  :shok:   I paid $25 for a pair of R6 blue dots with all the lines (which I didn't need) from the wreckers for my '92.  I guess when they have you over a barrell there's not much you can do.
1992 FJ1200 ABS
YouTube Channel Paul G


Bones

Quote from: PaulG on June 15, 2020, 09:35:00 PM
Quote from: krusty on June 14, 2020, 06:24:20 PM
I got a $20 discount so it was really only $130. Most I found were about $160-$170. Equivalent USD was about $90.
There were cheaper ones on US Ebay but shipping costs were horrendous.

Ouch.  :shok:   I paid $25 for a pair of R6 blue dots with all the lines (which I didn't need) from the wreckers for my '92.  I guess when they have you over a barrell there's not much you can do.

Occasionally you'll score a bargain here, I got an FJR front brake master complete with silver spot calipers for I think $120.00, but normally that price or higher would be for each. Nothing is cheap to buy here compared to other countries.
93 fj1200
79 suzuki gt250x7


Too young to be old but old enough to know better.

krusty

Quote from: Starquest on June 15, 2020, 12:18:55 PM
Mine is a 1986. 89 forks,gold caliper stainless braided lines, v-max rotors ,r1 master cylinder, on 16 inch wheel.

As it is at the moment.
91 FJ1200
84 FJ1100 x 2
85 FJ1100
89 GL1500
76 CB750F1
72 CB350F
63 C92 x 2
59 C76
62 C100
63 C100
60 Colleda 250TA x 3
63 Suzuki MD50
77 DT125E
77 DT175E x 2
79 DT250F

krusty

Blue spots arrived on Friday. They look good except the dust seals on one are toast. Pistons look ok but will know better when I have them out. Odd thing was they calipers had mixed pads. I'll see if I can get a pic of them.

91 FJ1200
84 FJ1100 x 2
85 FJ1100
89 GL1500
76 CB750F1
72 CB350F
63 C92 x 2
59 C76
62 C100
63 C100
60 Colleda 250TA x 3
63 Suzuki MD50
77 DT125E
77 DT175E x 2
79 DT250F

krusty

Removed inner pistons today, all in good condition with no sign of corrosion. I'll remove the inner pistons when the special tool arrives from UK. August 2017 Classic Motorcycle Mechanics has a How To feature on R6 brake overhaul.
                                   
91 FJ1200
84 FJ1100 x 2
85 FJ1100
89 GL1500
76 CB750F1
72 CB350F
63 C92 x 2
59 C76
62 C100
63 C100
60 Colleda 250TA x 3
63 Suzuki MD50
77 DT125E
77 DT175E x 2
79 DT250F

Pat Conlon

Go ahead and replace the seals on the inner pistons, reinstall the 2 pistons, then use a c clamp to hold the 2 inner pistons in place, now use your air compressor to blow out the outer pistons.

I do not recommend messing around with those blue spot buttons.

Over the years we have changed thousands of piston seals on the Yamaha monoblock calipers and have never needed a special tool or needed to remove those buttons.  
1) Free Owners Manual download: https://tinyurl.com/fmsz7hk9
2) Don't store your FJ with E10 fuel https://tinyurl.com/3cjrfct5
3) Replace your old stock rubber brake lines.
4) Important items for the '84-87 FJ's:
Safety wire: https://tinyurl.com/99zp8ufh
Fuel line: https://tinyurl.com/bdff9bf3

krusty

Still waiting for the seals to arrive and also a dental pick off Ebay which will make it easier to get the old items out of the bores.
In the meantime I've been kept busy. Ever had one of those experiences where one simple job leads to another - and another?
I noticed the clutch was also weeping on the 1100 so I fitted new seals (which arrived a couple of days ago) to one of the M/cs I'd already cleaned up. Fitted that to the bike and bled the clutch, again no trouble there. However, when I had finished and cleaned up I wheeled the bike to the back of the garage and noticed it was hard to push. I put the bike up on the centre stand and tried to turn the rear wheel (in neutral) - I could hardly move it. I instantly suspected that the tiny pressure relief hole in the rear m/c must be blocked with crud. I've come across this problem before on other old(er) bikes.
As it happened, a friend of mine had recently sold his 1200 and had a box of parts left over from when he rebuilt it a few years back. He offered them to me, gratis. Among the stuff was a complete, clean rear, brake system. I checked it over and checked the little hole in the m/c and all looked very good. The pads that came with it were almost worn out but the pads on my 1100 were excellent as I had replaced them when I got the bike about 3 years ago and they haven't done a lot of Ks.
It was a straightforward swap. Out with old and in with the new. Bled the system and all was good again. This afternoon I took it for a test ride and all went well, only thing I had to adjust was the brake pedal.
The old brake system is now stored along with my other brake bits ready to be overhauled for another 1100 I am working on.

Something I just thought of. It wouldn't start while in gear with the clutch lever pulled in. I checked the lever switch and it tested ok. Is there something else that could be at fault?
91 FJ1200
84 FJ1100 x 2
85 FJ1100
89 GL1500
76 CB750F1
72 CB350F
63 C92 x 2
59 C76
62 C100
63 C100
60 Colleda 250TA x 3
63 Suzuki MD50
77 DT125E
77 DT175E x 2
79 DT250F

T Legg

The kickstand has to be up also when it is in gear to start.
T Legg