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Starter Clutch Failure
« on: December 28, 2020, 12:34:10 AM »

Well, my 95 left me stranded today. The starter clutch has been acting up over the last 6 months or so. Running an errand today, it failed to engage. mad cray The bike is at the garage and I will begin to pull the engine out.


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Re: Starter Clutch Failure
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2020, 03:08:19 AM »

Quote from: aviationfred on December 28, 2020, 12:34:10 AM
Well, my 95 left me stranded today. The starter clutch has been acting up over the last 6 months or so. Running an errand today, it failed to engage. mad cray The bike is at the garage and I will begin to pull the engine out.


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what forks swing arm and wheels are you using?
shame about the starter clutch btw
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Re: Starter Clutch Failure
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2020, 03:23:36 AM »

Quote from: mike g on December 28, 2020, 03:08:19 AM
Quote from: aviationfred on December 28, 2020, 12:34:10 AM
Well, my 95 left me stranded today. The starter clutch has been acting up over the last 6 months or so. Running an errand today, it failed to engage. mad cray The bike is at the garage and I will begin to pull the engine out.


Fred
what forks swing arm and wheels are you using?
shame about the starter clutch btw

Forks, front wheel, and calipers are from a 2008 Suzuki GSX-R1000. The swingarm is from a 2003 Yamaha FZ1/Fazer 1000. The rear wheel and caliper are from a 1998 Suzuki GSX-R1100


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Re: Starter Clutch Failure
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2020, 09:41:04 PM »

Fred could it be your 95 is acting up because of all the attention you have spent on Casper?
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Re: Starter Clutch Failure
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2020, 07:41:39 AM »

Quote from: T Legg on December 28, 2020, 09:41:04 PM
Fred could it be your 95 is acting up because of all the attention you have spent on Casper?


 sarcastic rofl pardon We got it over to the garage and on the lift. Turned on the ignition and it fired up the first time as if there was no problem.  pardon

I am still going to pull the engine and make repairs. I was fortunate that the failure to start was in town instead of being 100 miles out in the country.


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Re: Starter Clutch Failure
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2020, 09:46:47 AM »

Figures!

Any upgrades while you are in there?!
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Re: Starter Clutch Failure
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2020, 10:33:26 AM »

Quote from: fj1289 on December 29, 2020, 09:46:47 AM
Figures!

Any upgrades while you are in there?!

As much as I would love to, I can not at this time.


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« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2020, 01:30:25 PM »

Yeah, that slippery slope can become a cliff real quick!
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Re: Starter Clutch Failure
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2020, 08:46:28 PM »

I got the engine out and parts ordered.



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Re: Starter Clutch Failure
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2020, 08:53:26 PM »

I posted about this a few years ago. If you have to remove the oil pan for maintenance. Pull the Oil Pick up screen off and clean it. I am sure the oil pan has never been removed on this bike.

I have seen photos of the screen being so clogged with junk, that the suction from the oil pump actually pulls the screen away from the edges.


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Re: Starter Clutch Failure
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2020, 10:13:14 PM »

When I split my cases last October the gasket was stuck completely all the way around the pan. I'm guessing they must of used some kind of adhesive on it. I literally spent ten hours scraping the gasket off with a razor blade . I tried solvents and some kind of foaming gasket remover from permatex but nothing had any affect on it. Only manual scraping would do it. Removing the old gasket was by far the most difficult part of fixing my transmission.
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Re: Starter Clutch Failure
« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2020, 10:40:21 PM »

Quote from: aviationfred on December 29, 2020, 08:53:26 PM
I posted about this a few years ago. If you have to remove the oil pan for maintenance. Pull the Oil Pick up screen off and clean it. I am sure the oil pan has never been removed on this bike.

I have seen photos of the screen being so clogged with junk, that the suction from the oil pump actually pulls the screen away from the edges.


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The complete starter clutch rebuild kit comes with a new screen, Fred. Just an FYI
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Re: Starter Clutch Failure
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2020, 02:26:28 AM »

Quote from: aviationfred on December 29, 2020, 08:53:26 PM

I have seen photos of the screen being so clogged with junk, that the suction from the oil pump actually pulls the screen away from the edges.

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Mine was broken
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Re: Starter Clutch Failure
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2020, 10:21:35 AM »

Sorry you have to go through this, but thrilled you're sharing the work.

I'm starting to think I should have changed or upgraded when I had the chance -

Any idea what caused the failure?
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Re: Starter Clutch Failure
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2020, 12:50:00 PM »

Was the engine cold when the starter clutch failed?
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